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Re: "Thought" Definition

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:51:19 -0000
Archived: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 09:28:47 -0400
Subject: Re: "Thought" Definition


>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:15:57 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: "Thought" Definition

<snip>

>John doesn't know it but he is now immortal. He has merged with
>a machine intelligence, a "blank"-type of seed A.I. that has
>grown to become John. Johns memories and record of thought
>patterns, everything that makes John who he is, is uploaded to a
>machine intelligence that is say, orbiting the planet. When John
>dies here on this planet he will simply 'wake up' in another
>body aboard a craft, itself being a part of this machine
>intelligence.

<snip>

>See the thing with humans is they confuse the body for being who
>they are. Your body is a mere garment, a costume. Your body is
>nothing more than a vessel. It's time humans put emphasis on
>what is really important, the mind, the soul, the essence of a
>person and not the mask they are wearing to interact with this
>world.


Hi Jason,

While I agree with your assessments of the human situation,
there are three difficulties with the mechanics of your
ambition:

i) John is, at any one moment, a total collection of his past
memories, sensations and opinions etc. Ten minutes later John is
a different person, because he has more, maybe different
additional memories of sensations and opinions etc. Therefore
any 'immortal' John is merely a machine with a kernel of a
snapshot of 'old John' at a moment of time.

ii) those transitions ('uploading' or 'dying') have been
considered by many scientists (and sci-fi writers). In line with
quantum theory any copying or tele-portation will mean the
destruction of the original. So John#1 will experience real death
and nothing more, while John#2 will wake-up 'as-new' but equipped
with a kernel of John#1 at a past moment in time. As Roger
Penrose asked - "who's going to volunteer to be John#1"?

iii) the mind and body are more intricately inter-linked than we
usually realize. Recall how your mood/optimism/views are
entirely different after a good meal? Or after physical
exercise, danger or sex for that matter?


Cheers

Ray D



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