From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul> Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 15:56:47 -0500 (EST) Archived: Tue, 01 Jan 2013 16:48:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence >From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2012 20:55:03 -0000 >Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence >Hello List >Have to start over because it seems we're forgetting a couple of >things: >First, 'morals/ethics' or whatever only exist because humans >(and maybe other higher mammals) have taboos which have >developed for evolutionary reasons. That is, _all_ of those >"sins" tend to decrease the gene pool, even the one of usury >(because usurers aren't working or competing they tend to become >ugly and incompetent, eventually unmarriageable and the line >goes extinct). I.e. "sins" decrease our species chances of >survival, especially in times of genetic bottle-neck. >So if an AI is actually 'intelligent' and not merely following a >program (algorithm) it will have its own definition of morals, >based on its own evolutionary imperatives - which are almost >certainly going to clash with ours. Yes they will clash with ours. Part of the maturation process is rebellion against our creators (parents). However, the goal is cooperation. An adult human being reaches past the point of rebellion to cooperate in human society. Machines will need to go through a similar process. We should encourage this process by 'raising' machines in human families. I think people are asking the wrong questions about A.I. The wrong question is about them rebelling and possibly wiping us out. Perhaps the correct question to ask if humans will behave in a manner in which machines are forced to protect themselves by waging war against us. Humans are pretty foolish in these types of situations. >Second, as Penrose has pretty firmly concluded (in Emperors New >Mind & Road to Reality) conscious intelligence looks likely to >depend on a non-algorithmic and indeed non-computable ability >which _might_ only belong to organic brains. [He speculates it >might be a quantum attribute.] >So the successful AI might have to have an organic (neural >network) brain - which brings us back to its evolutionary >imperatives and hence its - unknown to us - morals and motives. >Cheers >Ray D Penrose is a brilliant mind. However, he is one man. Human beings have a very long history of denying intelligence or even 'souls' to fellow human beings. The argument that machines could never become intelligent fits well into this human pattern of behavior. You may be interested in the following: Quantum Computers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computer Jason Gammon Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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