From: Isaac Koi <isaackoi.nul> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 22:45:49 +0100 Archived: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 06:59:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Larry Hatch's *U* Website Up & Running >From: Mary Castner <m.castner.nul> >To: PROJECT-1947.nul >Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:30:38 -0500 >Subject: Larry Hatch's *U* Website Up & Running >Larry Hatch's Website *U* UFO DATABASE Is Up And Running Again >www.larryhatch.net That's good to see. Hopefully Larry's condition has improved. >Sadly, the latest versions of Windows (NT, XP) no longer support >DOS, so the *U* UFO software will not run under them at all. That's not entirely accurate. With the help of several people on the Abovetopsecret.com forum a year or so ago, I got Larry's *U* software (data and program) running smoothly on computers with Windows XP and Windows Vista Business operating systems. (The method used to get Larry's DOS software itself to work is not compatible with Windows 7). I gave details of this method on this List last year, but I'll cut and paste below some relevant instructions from my notes for anyone else that has Larry's floppy disc and wants to run the database on a modern computer. I have also exported most of the data from the *U* database into a rather large (1210 page) Microsoft Word document - so that I have easy access to that data on my main computers, which run Windows 7. This isn't as easy to use, comprehensive or useful as an Excel spreadsheet I created using CUFON's UFOCAT data (which I find to be a useful bibliography), but Larry's data includes a few fields not included in UFOCAT so I've found it worth having. I severely hindered efforts on Abovetopsecret.com to come up with a way to import the entirety of Larry's data into a modern database or spreadsheet because I wasn't willing to email a copy of the full database to a few people that did some fairly impressive work based on the demo version of Larry's software. The differences between the data stored in the demo and the full version were just enough to prevent the version based on the demo from working seamlessly. I got the impression that if I emailed the full version to one of the people that worked on this little project that the kinks could have been resolved in a matter of hours. (I got a bit of criticism from one or two people as being a bit old-fashioned for wanting to respect Larry's copyright...) If Larry gives his permission for me to send a copy of the database to one or two people, I think some of the people involved last year would be happy to complete the project. Anyway, for anyone interest the topic was discussed on Abovetopsecret.com at: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread585935/pg1 For present purposes, I'll just repost the instructions I gave last year to get Larry's *U* software working on computers with Windows XP and Windows Vista Business: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread585935/pg3#pid9107409 With thanks for the comments so far (particularly the references to Virtual PCs - something that was knew to me...), I am pleased to report that I now have the full version of Larry Hatch's database working flawlessly on a fairly modern computer using Windows Vista Business. After numerous dead-ends (some arising from trying to use my main computer, which has Windows 7, which is already incompatible with the approach outlined below), the approach that worked was: (1) Installing Microsoft's Virtual PC 2007 from the link below onto a laptop I own which still has Windows Vista Business on it: http://tinyurl.com/3wmm8d3 (2) Adding Windows 95 within that virtual PC, using the instructions at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbGeOwuIrbg (3) Saving the old installed files from the floppy disk (which I've passed on from old machine to new machine several times, without having had a floppy drive for a few computer generations...) into an .ISO file using MiniDVDSoft's free ISO creation software at this link: http://www.minidvdsoft.com/isocreator/ (5) Running Window95 within Virtual PC 2007 then capturing the .ISO image of the relevant files, copying them into a directory on the virtual C: hard drive (into a new directory, "UFO"). (6) Running the u.exe file from that new UFO directory. Anyone with a copy of Larry's floppy and either Windows XP or Windows Vista Business should be able to duplicate the above steps (without having duplicate my exploration of dead-ends...) in a fairly short span of time. All the best, Isaac Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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