From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:49:04 -0300 Archived: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 06:37:35 -0400 Subject: Re: New Official Brazilian UFO Files >From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:10:47 -0500 >Subject: Re: New Official Brazilian UFO Files <snip> >Or maybe, so as not to disappoint us who otherwise would be >willing to hear you out, you could list some UFO sightings you >regard as puzzling and suggestive. Answering both you and Tichetti, and to mention a couple of Brazilian cases, the "Chupa-Chupa" ("Suck-Suck") attacks related to Operation Saucer on the Amazon during the late 1970s; as well as the "Official UFO Night" in 1986 are both very puzzling and suggestive. They involve hundreds of independent witnesses, including official authorities, of which the records have been taken at the time of the events. >Or are we to presume that you conduct your inquiries with the >predetermined belief that there are none and that all goes to >serve that conclusion? On the contrary. There's a plethora of yet to be discovered phenomena. And this, I think we all hope, will eventually include extraterrestrial intelligence, civilizations, et al. And much, much more, including things we don't even dream about. >If so, I'd argue that's more ideology, which is easy, than >actual skepticism, which is hard. When I write that the more disclosure we see, the more the skeptical position is favored, I'm stating a fact. Would you claim that the ETH position is favored instead? Have the dozens of thousands of released documents strengthened the ETH case? Of course, when I mean skeptical position, I mean the skeptical position. Arguing about ideology is ideology, Jerry, and especially when you, like Gevaerd and Tichetti, seem to imply I somehow don't deserve to be heard because I'm allegedly a skeptibunker with a made up mind or something like that. Even if that were true, ignoring relevant information I may bring up is just more ideology and made-up minds. The ideal that we should all be bias free is an ideal. Of course we should be conscious and avoid our own biases, but pointing out someone is biased simply to completely ignore his points is just more bias. Which is indeed easy. Only through the civilized, rational exchange between researchers, all with their own different biases, that we can hope that it may finally cancel each other out, somewhat, and get closer to whatever it is that "truth" may be. But this, of course, is simply an ideal. Regards, Kentaro Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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