From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:26:29 -0400 (EDT) Archived: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 07:43:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs >From: Chris Burns <Thurstonoreggae.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:22:42 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs >>From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 23:59:43 -0400 >>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs >>Don, could you clarify your last comments for me please? >>I live under a flight path for Stewart, about 5 miles southeast >>of West Shokan, one of the towns featured in the story. If you >>open up your Google Maps to New York State and get a section >>framed by Interstate 88 and Interstate 87 (NY Thruway), with the >>Ashokan Reservoir in the lower right corner, you'll see the >>small towns/hamlets like West Shokan, Chichester and Stamford >>are dotted throughout the vast, mountainous state forest lands >>of the Catskill Mountains. Populated, it ain't (let alone highly >>populated), and our regular traffic heading to Stewart is >>limited to a handful of flights. >>Are you invalidating the experiences of the people quoted, and >>saying they didn't see or hear what they saw and heard? While I >>can't personally verify that they were C-130s, a police officer >>seems to have corroborated Blake Killen's statement that that's >>one of the aircraft. >>Carol Maltby >I talked to a collection of people from the Ulster area who would >be the ones to have their eyes to the skies, but not one >personally had seen or heard the reported recent activity. Some >remembered however personally seeing the activity from a decade >ago that the Woodstock paper mentioned and speculated were >connected to the bombings in Serbia and Bosnia. >Another odd first-person account I heard was from a resident in >Pine Bush on one of the farming roads who walked out of his house >two Sunday afternoons ago to find a military-style jet literally >hovering uncomfortably close to his house. As it swiveled to fly >off he was able to get a number of cell phone pictures, which he >had with him. Said the noise was considerable. He didn't offer >any speculation as to what the aircraft was doing, but he was >wondering if anybody else had also witnessed it. >Thanks to Carol and Errol for the OK to repost the original >message. Good work there Chris Burns! Your subject's account sounds just about right. Experimental and military craft are part of the region and Don Ledger's point about the military not doing out of the ordinary maneuvers is understandable but it's not the reality as we're talking about the not understandable. If everything were perfect he'd be spot on. The military does lots of things they're not supposed to do as do private citizens that own military hardware. The military craft I've seen do maneuvers that were out of the ordinary had no insignia and these were incidents in broad daylight with hundreds and perhaps thousands of people as witnesses. If the military were behind it and got into trouble we citizens weren't informed of it. If it was private contractors working for the government we citizens didn't hear of any reprimands which doesn't mean some general somewhere didn't chew somebody out and put them on KP for a century. There are many advanced labs in the region most don't know about. No telling who is cooking up what and it got away. I talk to residents from the region every hour it seems thanks to Facebook and other social media. They happen to be family and friends. Family and friends I might add whose ancestors founded the region including those of Native American descent who were there when the Dutch showed up. Matter of fact we have artifacts and locations showing people from Africa and Europe having visited a long time before anyone expected or wants to admit. The Hudson Valley is fertile area for farming and mysterious. The Hudson River used to be a bounty of animal and plant life. People could walk to the river and haul in lobster, clams, crabs, sturgeon and more with ease. Then GE came in and polluted it killing the fishing industry. Add to that the industrial pollution into the region's groundwater and farm land it's a miracle the region wasn't evacuated. I know because I was the guy who had to make the map of the superfund sites and other toxic sites for the Poughkeepsie Journal newspaper back in the 80s and there were so many dots for toxic sites that I didn't have room for the names of the towns. Where Pine Bush is was just as scary. Ulster, Green and the other counties even going as far as northern New Jersey had UFO sightings and experiences but people had nowhere to go for help and the abductions and contacts were so disturbing that many caved in under the pressure and stress. It's a damned shame what those folks went through and are going through. Best, Greg ufomafia.com/blog Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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