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Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:12:59 -0300
Archived: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 07:13:55 -0400
Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs


>From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:06:03 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 12:32:17 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

><snip>

>>There is no Military Operational Area in the affected region of
>>New York state such as the Hudson Valley or the Catskills.
>>Additionally the Westchester area in the Hudson Valley is in the
>>New York TRACON. Contrary to what most think the US Air Force
>>can't just go and do maneuvers wherever they want. They can be
>>arrested-and have been just the same as anyone else.

>>There are plenty of MOAs in the American southwest where these
>>operations can be carried out.

>>I urge for the hundredth time for people to check all of their
>>facts and what is and is not allowed in Controlled and un
>>controlled airspace - the latter which is the domain of many
>>private aircraft and low end commercial use.

>>C-130s (Hercs) roaring at low level up valleys chasing these so-
>>called drones or in operation with, is ludicrous. Once you get
>>that parameter in place you can start there with attempts at
>>identification.

<snip>

>With all your knowledge of aircraft and related history you, for
>some reason didn't notice that the region of the Hudson Valley
>is home to one of the biggest airfields and runways on the East
>Coast.

<snip>

>People and organizations do what the heck they want to when they
>want to and don't always obey the law. Just because they're not
>supposed to do something doesn't mean they won't or we wouldn't
>have such massive global crime such as weapons, drugs, slavery.

You are mixing your apples and oranges, Greg. I said MOAs,
Military Operational Areas, not air force bases. And you were
doing pretty good there until the end where you fell into the
belief that the USAF can do whatever it pleases when it pleases
in US airspace.

The densest commercial traffic corridors and airspace in the
world is the New York TRACON (that might not be the case in a
few years when Bejing exceeds that) and that air space is
jealously guarded. Google that up on Wiki. Cripes there are AF
bases all over the map in that area but that doesn't mean they
train there other than to take off and land. They don't do
exercises out in reeds with impunity; period.

Me and thousands like me have passed through that airspace below
the floor of the TRACON (2,500 to 3,000 feet ASL) threading
through  what's left between biz-jet ports and regional carrier
and commuter fields, etc.never mind the rising and falling
terrain. Unrecorded C-130s tearing around willy-nilly chasing
Top Secret Drones  through highly populated areas and commercial
airspace is absurd and the province of the fringe believer.


Don Ledger



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