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Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

From: Chris Burns <Thurstonoreggae.nul>
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:01:45 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 08:23:39 -0400
Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>From: Carol Maltby <carolmaltby.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:01:19 -0400
>Subject: Re: Hudson Valley UFOs

>I'd like to alert those interested in Hudson Valley UFO
>sightings that we've been having a problem with what appear to
>be military craft that may produce some UFO reports. Astronomer
>Bob Berman (who lives in the area) described his sighting in his
>Woodstock Times column as "Man, it was weird. It was the closest
>thing to a UFO that I've ever seen."

>This summer the mountainous, heavily wooded central Catskills
>(western Ulster County in particular) has been plagued with
>loud, fast low-flying aircraft often around midnight.They've
>been reported to sometimes follow the hollows deeper into the
>mountains. I ran out of my house at the noise when one of them
>flew over, concerned that it was a plane about to crash (heard
>it, didn't see it). Another I saw at midnight appeared to be
>lower than the mountains beyond it, and seemed to be at least as
>large as a quarter held at arm's length.

>Efforts to find an agency would take responsibility for the
>flights has been frustrating so far. The larger planes have been
>identified as C-130s. They are sometimes seen in close pursuit
>of smaller planes, which Berman describes as "small, very fast,
>dark aircraft with no position (navigation) lights - just a
>single green trailing light. I think it was a pilotless drone."
>Resident Mary Kelly says the plane she saw had only one red
>light.The smaller planes are said to be the MQ-9 Reaper
>pilotless drones, of the sort used over Afghanistan. Perhaps
>those of us under the fly-overs are only video game blips to
>some kid at an Air National Guard console.

>Woodstock (NY) Times article Aug. 25 2011:


>Bob Berman Woodstock Times column Sept. 1, 2011:


>I still haven't seen a UFO here in 24 years in the Hudson
>Valley, though I once missed a possible sighting in a known
>hotspot (Whitley's old neighborhood) due to being on the wrong
>side of the car to see it. I still keep scanning the skies,

Carol, Errol,

Thanks for posting that information concerning the aircraft
activity over Ulster County in the Hudson Valley. I believe we
traded emails before, but I concentrate on collecting and when
possible investigating sightings around the Pine Bush area,
which is located where Orange County meets Ulster.

Oddly enough, I followed-up with a witness in Montgomery last
night who reported watching a red and green light the previous
week meander around for about 5 minutes, at one point doing a
loop. The report reminded me of the old "amber ramblers" seen in
Yakima, WA and Piedmont, MO.

While the movement doesn't sound like what one would expect from
a drone, I do find it interesting that the two colors mentioned
in the Woodstock Times article are similar to what my witness
reported. He thought the best conventional explanation would be
a remote-controlled model plane, but as he was very familiar
with how conventional and military aircraft appear from his
residence's viewpoint, he felt the distance covered by the
object as well as lack of motor sound detracted from the model
plane explanation.

Myself and Vincent Polise run a Yahoo List for the Pine Bush UFO
community; could I get permission from you and Errol to repost
your note? I think many would find it very interesting.

Thanks again!

Chris Burns

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