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Re: Former Intelligence Officer Speaks Of UFOs

From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:10:30 -0300
Archived: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 15:34:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Former Intelligence Officer Speaks Of UFOs


>From: Gregory Boone <evolbaby.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 02:51:57 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Former Intelligence Officer Speaks Of UFOs

>Source: KLAS-TV - Las Vegas, Nevada

>http://tinyurl.com/3m8mkmz

>Sep 02, 2011


>I-Team: Former Intelligence Officer Speaks Of UFOs

>By George Knapp, Chief Investigative Reporter
>By Matt Adams, Chief Photojournalist


>LAS VEGAS -- It's been more than 20 years since a Las Vegan made
>a splash in the strange world of UFO's. Back in the late 80's, a
>man named Bob Lazar told wild stories about weird craft being
>tested at Area 51, and his story is still reverberating around
>the world.

>Now, another local man has caused a furor among those who follow
>the UFO subject. He's a former Army intelligence officer, well
>known to 8 News NOW viewers, who used his contacts in government
>to track down saucer rumors.

>[More...]

I have known George and John for more than 20 years and respect
them both.I think George is one of the most informed main stream
jourmnalists on UFOs in the country. However, having read John's
book, and heard an hour discussion between him and George, and
heard him in Phoenix at Open Minds and had a sort of debate with
him there, I must say I think he has reached wrong conclusions
partly because he has a number of false claims in the book.

1. His claim that there is no secret data collection or
investigative effort is based on the fact that he and his
associates were unable to find it. One of those absence of
evidence is evidence for absence arguments. We know from the NSA
and CIA TOP SECRET Code word UFO documents, it would have taken
a need to know besides such a clearance. No evidence is provided
that any of the people searching had such a need to know.Why
would anybody with the clearance and need to know have breeched
security by talking to people, even those with a TS
clearance,who didn't have the n-t-k.?

2. John claims that President Truman had already stated that
UFOs were real and not from here, supposedly at a press
conference. No evidence was provided that such a press
conference was held or such a statement was made. The Truman
Library did a search at my request and could find no such
evidence. Claims without evidence aren't worth much.

3. John claims that USAF Secretary Sheila Widnall, as part of
the GAO investigation re Roswell had offered amnesty to any
former military person, who thought  the information he had was
classified, to speak out openly..That simply isn't true. She
said they could speak with Colonel Richard Weaver who had access
to all special access programs. He is the disinformation
specialist who wrote "The Roswell Report: Truth vs Fiction in
the NM Desert." He provided the fiction. Her letter is on the
internet.

4. John dismissed the MJ-12 documents based on false claims made
by The National Archives early on which were later changed as I
noted in "TOP SECRET/MAJIC" (2005). For example, the GAO itself
later said they had found documents classified TOP SECRET
RESTRICTED despite earlier claims that that designation..was not
in use at the time...

5. There was no mention of the Bolender memo clearly
establishing that there were separate communications channels
for the USAF for reports which could affect national security
and that these were not part of the Blue Book System contrary to
contiinuing claims that there was no National Security aspect to
UFOs

In conclusion I think the evidence really does indicate that
there is a Cosmic Watergate, that Roswell involved an alien
saucer, that there is a group akin to Majestic 12.

Be happy to do a formal debate with John,


Stan Friedman



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