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Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:41:53 -0500
Archived: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 10:04:30 -0400
Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'


>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:11:16 +0000
>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:30:47 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:21:53 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

<snip>

>>As usual, we seem to be on opposite sides of the issue. You
>>don't think that some witnesses to UFO events tailor their
>>report to fit what they think will be acceptable to the UFO
>>Reporting Center or UFO researcher?

>>Have you any evidence of that? Or is this the sort of wishful
>>thinking that makes conversations with debunkers so frustrating
>>to more open-minded inquirers?

>>One thing we do have evidence of, from a whole lot of witness
>>testimony, is of what Allen Hynek called the "escalation of
>>hypotheses," proving that as a whole witnesses do the opposite
>>of leaping to the most extreme conclusions about what they've
>>seen.

>>The most extreme case of witness tampering I've ever seen was in
>>an exchange between debunker Donald Menzel and fellow astronomer
>>Seymour Hess. Hess had seen a UFO, and Menzel engaged in a
>>letter-writing campaign intended to persuade him - it escalated
>>into bullying - into endorsing Menzel's fanciful explanation for
>what the man saw. Suffice it to say Menzel didn't succeed.

<snip>

>There are people who want a couple of seconds of fame, ending up
>as part of some hallway conversation at a conference. The
>conversation would include an exchange of the most "interesting"
>cases and the witness would become part of somebody's list. The
>case would never be solved. Just used as an item of conversation
>or published list.

A much larger reality, sadly, is witness silence. Ridicule is
the enforcement mechanism of a society that demands people keep
their mouths shut about their unacceptable experiences. The
number of people bold or foolish enough to talk openly about
such comprise only a small, surely a tiny, minority of
witnesses.

>Me? I like to make note of my own experiences and wait. Because,
>I know that someday the solution will present itself. As it
>usually does.

Well, Kathy, perhaps in your, not necessarily everybody's,
experience. I recall my own encounter (on three occasions in the
summer of 2000, the last of them in the company of my wife) with
a phantom quadruped and my (in retrospect) hilariously na=EFve
belief that I could find a prosaic explanation for it. I wrote
about that revelatory experience in an essay, "Among the
Anomalies," for the Journal of Scientific Exploration in 2005.


Cheers,

Jerry Clark



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