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Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:11:16 +0000
Archived: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:09:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 08:30:47 -0500
>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:21:53 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

<snip>

>>As usual, we seem to be on opposite sides of the issue. You
>>don't think that some witnesses to UFO events tailor their
>>report to fit what they think will be acceptable to the UFO
>>Reporting Center or UFO researcher?

>Have you any evidence of that? Or is this the sort of wishful
>thinking that makes conversations with debunkers so frustrating
>to more open-minded inquirers?

>One thing we do have evidence of, from a whole lot of witness of
>testimony, is of what Allen Hynek called the "escalation of
>hypotheses," proving that as a whole witnesses do the opposite
>of leaping to the most extreme conclusions about what they've
>seen.

>The most extreme case of witness tampering I've ever seen was in
>an exchange between debunker Donald Menzel and fellow astronomer
>Seymour Hess. Hess had seen a UFO, and Menzel engaged in a
>letter-writing campaign intended to persuade him - it escalated
>into bullying - into endorsing Menzel's fanciful explanation for
>what the man saw. Suffice it to say Menzel didn't succeed.

Jerry:

You know that I adore you, but you have decided to ignore the
example I gave for self-tampering by a witness. A bona fide ufo
investigator isn't always necessary.

There are people who want a couple of seconds of fame, ending up
as part of some hallway conversation at a conference. The
conversation would include an exchange of the most "interesting"
cases and the witness would become part of somebody's list. The
case would never be solved. Just used as an item of conversation
or published list.

Me? I like to make note of my own experiences and wait. Because,
I know that someday the solution will present itself. As it
usually does. I don't require a bona fide reporting experience
to wonder at and solve the events I have experienced. Sometimes
I am right, and sometimes I am wrong. If did my reporting
publicly, I would have to endure discussion, mild intellectual
poking and prodding. I guess I am too shy to put myself through
such, what I consider, a mindless exercise without anybody
coming to any conclusions.


KK



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