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Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 19:21:53 +0000
Archived: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 02:40:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 08:19:00 -0500
>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:17:58 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>>>From: John Harney <magonia.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 16:52:49 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: Book 'Exposed, Uncovered, And Declassified'

>>>There is no mention of them, and the important cases remain
>>>unsolved, so far as Pope is concerned. This is in accordance
>>>with his now well-known Orwellian approach to ufology, whose
>>>history is constantly re-written into a form to keep the
>>>believers happy."

>Actually, "Orwellian" is the phrase that comes to mind when one
>thinks of the debunking mindset. The true disbelievers'
>freewheeling use of the verb "solve," for one prominent example,
>often does that for me.

>Orwell happens to be a hero of mine - I'd wager that I've read
>more of him and his biographers than anybody here - and I think,
>for example, of the delightful phrase, employed to characterize
>meaningless rhetoric affecting profundity, "an appearance of
>solidity to pure wind."

>There are many uncertainties in this life, but of one thing we
>can be sure: debunkers will take care to keep that wind blowing,
>all the while insisting it's concrete.


As usual, we seem to be on opposite sides of the issue. You
don't think that some witnesses to UFO events tailor their
report to fit what they think will be acceptable to the UFO
Reporting Center or UFO researcher?

I have no way to prove it, but the Arizona event just reported
on this List was one I also experienced. Albeit, just south of
Tucson. But, the only reporting I did was to make a note on my
calendar. It is where I write down out of the ordinary events I
see in the sky while out on my patio smoking a really good
cigar. It is my own record, very private, so I don't have to
impress anybody. I did tell a couple of friends about the event.
However, it's like this: the facts, just the facts, ma'am.

DATE: October 18, 2011,
Green Valley,
AZ TIME: 10:15 PM

Drone with white light craft array, possible four lights. Not
the usual red & white military craft lightning array. Headed
directly on a north flight path towards Tucson. Made an abrupt
flight path correction & flew directly west. After a few
moments, the craft lights were turned off. The craft was totally
silent. Because there was no moon yet in the sky, I could not
follow the craft.

ASSUMPTION: I know that Raytheon is testing a new guidance
system for its drones. Pilots have wanted a closer to in-craft
pilot control, i.e., just like sitting in the cockpit and
controlling the craft while sitting in a control booth, possibly
at Fort Huachuca. Raytheon announced that it has complied with
the Air Force's request for a larger drone with in-craft pilot
control. I am impressed with their latest development.

Have I ever seen something flying in the skies over my patio
that I can't explain in prosaic terms? Once, I think it was back
in May. The event was reported to astronomers I know.

No one has been able to tell me what I saw.

Naturally, until proven otherwise, I assumed it was some type of
celestial event.


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