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Re: Shirley MacLaine Postponed

From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:52:11 -0300
Archived: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 21:56:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Shirley MacLaine Postponed

>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 16:18:26 -0300
>Subject: Re: Shirley MacLaine Postponed

>>From: Kentaro Mori <kentaro.mori.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 20:08:02 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Shirley MacLaine Postponed

>>>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 13:59:26 -0300
>>>Subject: Re: Shirley MacLaine Postponed

>>>But something really, really weird happened during that dinner,
>>>something that impressed me a lot. And you know me, Stan, I am
>>>not the kind of guy who gets easily impressed with anything.

>>Does that refer to the story you have told repeatedly of a
>>young man there, whom you implied was an Alien?
>>Dining with an Extraterrestrial surely would impress anyone.

>once again correcting what you write, I never
>"implied" that the guy was an alien and how could you say so -
>and also say that I "repeatedly" tell that story - if you never
>heard that from me and the only times I told it was at UFO
>conferences in which you never showed up? Are you keeping me
>under surveillance?

No. In fact you published that story on your very own magazine,
June 1998, edition 59. It's available in full at:


Anyone can (after a registration your site demands) read the
full original in Portuguese, but since you contradict what you
clearly published about that event, I translate here the
relevant excerpt:

"At the end of the dinner, a startling fact happened, at least
to me and James [Courant]. Another young man joined the table
without we seeing his face well before that. Already seated, he
was introduced to us as Juhan. Looking at him, I had the utterly
strange sensation that went from perplexity to fear. That youg
man, around 30 years old, had a very uncommon face and a very
different gaze. While others at the table looked normal in
appearance and talked merrily, Juhan was quiet, serious and had
a look that truly looked -- without exaggeration -- that of an
extraterrestrial. His face was delicate, his skin was thin, his
hair was well groomed and his eys 'spoke' something mysteryous
about him. He didn't talk and just followed everything with his
eyes. He looked as if he was reading our thoughts. If we took a
picture of him and published in UFO [mag] as being an Alien,
hardly a reader would not believe us... The presence of Juhan at
the table, I confess, bothered me a bit and I patiently waited
James finish his third plate for us to go, as fast as we could.
I left the table and started to walk around [Meier's] property,
it was already dark, meeting Meier some dozen feet from where I
was, talking with his less social son."

If that's not suggesting you had dinner with an alien, I don't
know how to interpret it. You repeated that story several times
on UFO discussion lists, always implying the "mysterious" young
man was not from this world.

>You are a strange guy... Perhaps stranger than the one in the

As usual, I won't reply to personal attacks.


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