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Re: Shirley MacLaine

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 12:52:42 +0100
Archived: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 08:13:07 -0400
Subject: Re: Shirley MacLaine

>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2011 09:10:42 -0300
>Subject: Shirley MacLaine

>Dear Lister

>Shirley MacLaine is coming to Brazil for a very short trip next


>Do any of you guys who are familiar with her activities have any
>interesting question that I can use in my interview?

Hello AJ,

I realise that you specifically asked people to send their
suggestions to you off-List, but I think the following will be
of interest to many List members.

I seem to recall that MacLaine was a personal friend of Peter
and Eileen Caddy, founders of Findhorn, and spent some time

In his book (A Luminous Journey), Johan Quanjar relates a story
of the Caddys mistreating an elderly American - see the extract
below. I would like to know if MacLaine was familiar with Naomi
Edwards and her situation, and if there is any foundation to
Quanjar's commentary.

I would also be interested in her thoughts about Findorn,
Historically and currently.

Extract from page 67 of The Luminous Journey, Johan Quanjar,
electronic version:


...A rather touching footnote to this fiasco concerns the frail
elderly American lady, who had from the beginning impressed me as
being many cuts above the rest of the group.

She, Mrs Edwards, also known as Naomi, had been enticed there
after her husband's death, in the hope of spending her twilight
years in a community of spiritually-minded people like herself.

Her hopes swiftly crumbled when she found that not only were her
pension and possessions immediately commandeered, or 'shared',
but her very privacy was cruelly roughtrod by the leader and his
wife, as they read her mail, spied on her and demanded she hand
over metaphysical writings, which she bravely withheld from

These were safely in Chicago, but in order to force the poor lady
to write request letters for them, she was given, as she told me,
the 'hot and cold' treatment, meaning one moment she was given
warmth and love and a day later she was neglected.

I had returned to Scotland, in response to the American lady's
pleas to rescue her and I observed with my own eyes, how she was
indeed spied upon.

These personal affronts included going through her handbag, as I
saw the leader doing when he thought no on else was looking, and
generally mistreating her.

I managed to get a psychiatrist friend of mine, whom I had met
in nearby Pluscarden Abbey, to see the leader, and I introduced
him as a friend, with a view to receiving a professional
opinion, which was readily forthcoming.

"Not once, in my psychiatric career have I met anyone with such
an ego complex as that man", was his verdict of him. It was, he
said, essential to get the lady out before she died prematurely,
for she would do so if she stayed.

To cut a long story short, this was finally accomplished and Mrs
Edwards was removed from her heartless tormentors. After a rest
in the South of England, where she was seen by several doctors,
I arranged for her return to America. In her eyes, I remained a
knight in shining armour.




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