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Re: US Military Alien Reproduction Vehicles

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:54:57 -0400
Archived: Wed, 11 May 2011 06:31:26 -0400
Subject: Re: US Military Alien Reproduction Vehicles

>From: Gildas Bourdais<bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 10:15:18 +0200
>Subject: Re: US Military Alien Reproduction Vehicles

>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 05 May 2011 16:48:36 -0400
>>Subject: US Military Alien Reproduction Vehicles

>>Details Of US Military Alien Reproduction Vehicles

>>See Filer's Files #19 2011 - at:



>>WASHINGTON D.C. -- Mark McCandlish gave his Disclosure Project
>>Press Conference testimony at the National Press Club reveals
>>data on the alien reproduction vehicles or ARVs. "
>>The presentation in the above link gives a considerable amount
>>of detail about the construction of an ARV, and some hints about
>>the theory of operation. There is a reference to the Biefield-
>>Brown effect, the motion induced in a capacitor by a very high
>>applied voltage, a reference to zero-point energy (ZPE)
>>extraction, and a reference to a mass-canceling effect when the
>>system is running.

>>The discussion about ZPE extraction refers to interfering with
>>the spin of electrons and somehow using the ZPE that rushes in
>>to maintain their motions. This sounds a lot like the effect
>>produced by the Heterodyne Resonance Method discussed by Dr.
>>Stoyan Sarg in his book "Field propulsion by control of gravity
>>- theory and experiments". How this method may be used for
>>spacecraft propulsion is discussed in a chapter entitled "
>>Method and apparatus for spacecraft propulsion with a field
>>shield protection".

>>One or two people on this list no doubt will say that the ARV
>>described by McCandlish is a complete fantasy. But given Sarg's
>>experiments supporting his unconventional theory and his
>>proposal of a similar propulsion system for spacecraft, it seems
>>quite possible that the ARVs are a reality. In all likelihood,
>>some heavily funded black project has been able to do something
>>similar and had the resources to complete the engineering phase.

>I am aware that Richard Dolan, whom I have met at conferences
>and appreciated as speaker and author, gives credit to that
>story, in his book UFOs The Cover-Up Exposed 1973-91, pages 457-
>461. But I find that description very doubtful, for a number of

>I find hard to believe that such an extraordinary craft would
>have been displayed - even to selected people - in a hangar on
>Norton AFB, at the same time as an air show which presumably
>gathered a number of spectators on the base... I don't think
>such a highly secret asset would be displayed so casually!
>Another reason is that one of the three craft was open and
>showed its inside while hovering above ground (hence the drawing
>of Mac Candlish). This is just not credible either, to me.

Gildas, you make some good points, so I reread the article. It
turns out that McCandlish did not see the ARV himself. He got
his information from Brad Sorenson, a colleague. Sorenson was
the one who claimed that he saw the craft hovering inside the
hanger. Further, Sorenson did not see the insides of the craft.
Instead he was shown a video that described it inside and out.
So McCandlish's information about the hovering craft was at
least second hand, as was the existence of the video and all it

We don't know if the craft was displayed casually, since there
was no mention of  security or the lack of it.

>I suggest exploring a possible explanation for this fantastic
>story. Its supposed to have happened about one month after the
>very controversial TV show UFO Cover-Up Live, where Colonel
>Shartle, in charge of Air Force film archives at Norton AFB,
>revealed that he had seen the footage of a meeting with Aliens
>at Holloman AFB. In that context, I wonder if Mac Candlish could
>have been the victim of some disinformation trick, intended to
>discredit the Shartle testimony - see, all this is baloney!

I'm no expert on disinformation techniques, but the release of
any information by the military is probably not done unless
there is a pressing reason. So you could well be right. But we
are often told that the best disinformation is that which holds
some elements of truth. I think that is what attracted me to
this story. That is, the description of the technology and how
it works is loosely consistent with some new research that is in
the public domain.

The Heterodyne Resonance Mechanism described by Sarg requires a
plasma in which electron spins are manipulated to access energy
in the aether. Such a process is also described by McCandlish
when he talks about tapping zero-point energy by interfering
with the electron spin. Other technical aspects he discusses may
well be hog-wash, such as the big capacitors, etc that suggest
that the Biefeld-Brown effect is being used. This may be
capitalizing on what little we think we already know about the
B-B effect to facilitate misdirection.

A difficulty I have is that Sorenson passed along to McCandlish
what seems to be an excessive amount of technical detail if he
was shown the video only once. He must have a photographic
memory or he took copious notes while watching the video -
perhaps several times. This is another reason to think that some
technically aware person may have helped Sorenson make up a good
story for McCandlish. We have to judge for ourselves if he could
have remembered all the details, if someone could have helped
him recall, or if much or all of it is fiction.


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