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Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:23:03 -0500
Archived: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:45:19 -0400
Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data


>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:26:00 -0400
>Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data

>>From: Eleanor White <ewraven1.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:48:25 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data

>>>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>,
>>>Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:03:31 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data?

<snip>

>The other side of this study were the notes kept by the subjects
>that were used to correlate anomalous environmental readings,
>and I have not heard of any 'events' that were recorded by them.
>Now, does that mean that the abductors kept their distance, or
>that they were able to completely avoid detection, or perhaps
>it's all psychological and the subjects were aware that they
>were being monitored? Without a real analysis, I don't think we
>learn much.

Though even if it 'failed' in the sense that it filmed no
abductions, the project was worth doing. If it had 'succeeded' -
that is, filmed abduction-related activity - that would have
been thrilling both for the scientific data gathered and for the
chance to demonstrate them to a world that heretofore had done
nothing but scoff at such experiences. I do suspect, however,
that a properly funded effort which could have been seen through
to its conclusion would have arrived at the same results.

My suspicion after many years - I was investigating abduction
reports as long ago as the early 1970s - is that by their nature
and as a broad principle abduction experiences probably are not
filmable. They aren't filmable or otherwise recordable because
they are not taking place in the world as we ordinarily
understand it. Which is to say I think the questions raised in
your paragraph are too limiting.

In common with experience anomalies generally, abductions need
be neither products of imagination nor event phenomena, but
something of both; they occur, apparently, in liminal space,
where the subjective and the objective merge in ways human
beings can experience - vividly - but frustrate those who try to
document them as we would, say, the appearance of a rare animal.

The phenomenon may well represent a greater challenge to
existing knowledge than most have even considered. And it's not
a product solely of the UFO age; it has precedents in countless
centuries of extraordinary occurrences which, if they differ in
details and surface manifestations, are alike at their core. For
example, the 13th-C. ballad "Thomas the Rhymer" (about a real
human being, a Scotsman, and his alleged supernatural encounter)
- see pp. 195-98 of my book Hidden Realms, Lost Civilizations,
and Beings from Other Worlds - may recount how what we now call
"abductions" were experienced centuries ago in a very different
cultural context.


Jerry Clark



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