From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 09:23:03 -0500 Archived: Fri, 06 May 2011 12:45:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data >From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 07:26:00 -0400 >Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data >>From: Eleanor White <ewraven1.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 16:48:25 -0400 >>Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data >>>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul> >>>To: <post.nul>, >>>Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:03:31 -0400 >>>Subject: Re: Time For CUFOS To Release Abductee Home Data? <snip> >The other side of this study were the notes kept by the subjects >that were used to correlate anomalous environmental readings, >and I have not heard of any 'events' that were recorded by them. >Now, does that mean that the abductors kept their distance, or >that they were able to completely avoid detection, or perhaps >it's all psychological and the subjects were aware that they >were being monitored? Without a real analysis, I don't think we >learn much. Though even if it 'failed' in the sense that it filmed no abductions, the project was worth doing. If it had 'succeeded' - that is, filmed abduction-related activity - that would have been thrilling both for the scientific data gathered and for the chance to demonstrate them to a world that heretofore had done nothing but scoff at such experiences. I do suspect, however, that a properly funded effort which could have been seen through to its conclusion would have arrived at the same results. My suspicion after many years - I was investigating abduction reports as long ago as the early 1970s - is that by their nature and as a broad principle abduction experiences probably are not filmable. They aren't filmable or otherwise recordable because they are not taking place in the world as we ordinarily understand it. Which is to say I think the questions raised in your paragraph are too limiting. In common with experience anomalies generally, abductions need be neither products of imagination nor event phenomena, but something of both; they occur, apparently, in liminal space, where the subjective and the objective merge in ways human beings can experience - vividly - but frustrate those who try to document them as we would, say, the appearance of a rare animal. The phenomenon may well represent a greater challenge to existing knowledge than most have even considered. And it's not a product solely of the UFO age; it has precedents in countless centuries of extraordinary occurrences which, if they differ in details and surface manifestations, are alike at their core. For example, the 13th-C. ballad "Thomas the Rhymer" (about a real human being, a Scotsman, and his alleged supernatural encounter) - see pp. 195-98 of my book Hidden Realms, Lost Civilizations, and Beings from Other Worlds - may recount how what we now call "abductions" were experienced centuries ago in a very different cultural context. Jerry Clark Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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