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Re: SETI Summary

From: Peter Davenport <director.nul>
Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 12:41:18 -0700
Archived: Fri, 06 May 2011 06:57:29 -0400
Subject: Re: SETI Summary

>From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 15:00:33 -0500
>Subject: Re: SETI Summary

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 16:27:23 +0000
>>Archived: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 12:37:47 -0400
>>Subject: Re: SETI Summary

>>Here's the deal, plain and simple. One of the primary funders of
>>SETI was businessman Paul Allen. It was obvious that SETI was
>>not fulfilling its mission statement - i.e., finding signals
>>from other civilizations. To a business man like Allen, he was
>>cutting his loses with SETI and putting his money where there is
>>a promise of a healthy return for his investment.

>Paul Allen's Foundation contributed ~$25M (coffee money for him)
>for the initial construction of the telescope array. He's not a
>trustee, and he's not involved with day-to-day operations,

>He's moved on. Besides, most of the $18M/year budget comes from
>the government. Once seti.org is gone, I'll bet the ATA will be
>running again.

>I'm sure a university could operate it for a mere fraction of
>what the entrenched SETI bureaucracy costs, and they won't be
>using it to find ET radio signals. Once I read the tax return, I
>know _I_ won't be contributing.

Albert, Kathy, et al,

I suspect that detection of UFO's has been occurring for a long
time, probably since the early 1960's, when the U. S. Navy first
began operating the "Fence," their "passive" radar system for
detecting and tracking orbiting craft and space debris. If UFO's
are a real phenomenon, it seems highly unlikely that the Navy's
system would NOT have detected them, over some 50 years of its
continuous operation.

For details on the U. S. Naval Space Surveillance system, please
read my paper (2004) on the subject, or visit the USNACSPASUR


In addition, the University of Western Ontario also operates a
"passive" radar system, ostensibly to detect meteors. The system
registers and analyzes radio signals bounced off the ionized
trail behind the meteor, and is able to calculate the altitude,
flight path, velocity, and perhaps the size of the meteor. The
system is funded by MIT and NASA, I am led to believe, a fact
which, in my opinion, may "cloud" its real purpose. All I know
for certain is that the administrator of the project, Professor
Peter W. Brown, Ph.D. (physics) apparently did not want to
either talk, or correspond, with me about the technical aspects
of that detection system. He chose to ignore my first 6-8
attempts to communicate with him, and finally had one of his
graduate students communicate, in his stead. Very unusual
behavior, in my opinion!

Operating a "passive" radar system is little more expensive than
operating a car radio. It generates no signal of its own, it
only "listens" for reflected signals, which are broadcast from
afar, and which bounce off a target, usually located at high

I get more than a bit miffed and fed up with all the discussion
about "disclosure," when, in fact, we ufologists, for the first
time in man's history, have the ability to detect directly the
presence of UFO's. Frankly, I have come to question how much
serious thought occurs in the UFO community. I first proposed
the use of "passive" in a November 1999 (30th Anniversary) issue
of the MUFON Journal, and it was nine weeks (!!!) before I
received my first response to the article! I credit Richard
Vitello, an experienced ham radio operator (Call sign: W1RV), as
the first one through the door. He apparently understood the
power of what I had described in the article.

Folks, it is within the grasp of the UFO community to build a
"passive" radar system for detecting UFO's, possibly out to a
distance of some 250,000 (statute) miles from Earth. Once that
is done, we will no longer have to sit, twiddling our thumbs,
bickering among ourselves, and waiting for the top bureaucrats
to deign to share with us what they know about the visitation of
our planet that appears to be occurring.

SETI sat listening for 61 years, and heard nothing. What I
wonder is whether anyone in the UFO community is even paying


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