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Re: 'Evidence'

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 19:10:17 +0000
Archived: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:43:20 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Evidence'

>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:45:01 -0000
>Subject: 'Evidence' [was: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar]


>So those purely physical events/phenomena are outside the range
>of our present (human) scientific questioning.

>And in the esoteric and maybe recondite area of perceptions or
>mental and maybe e.sp. effects, the situation seems even worse.
>I.e analogous to 'inertia', science says that a "sheep-goat
>effect" exists -




>by which physical outcomes of experiments are actually changed
>by the positive or negative mind-sets of participants.

>Again it seems difficult or impossible to quantify -
>continuously measure and monitor - the amount of 'positivity' or
>'negativity' in the minds of participants. So again we are faced
>with phenomena outside the range of our present (human)
>scientific questioning.

>Way to go.


The first URL requires that I be a member of APA. I am not, so
therefore, I have no access to the first citation.

The paper linked in the second URL I have downloaded for weekend
reading. A superficial scan of the References indicates that
Delanoy cited from Hornton, Hyman and Blackmore. I suppose to
lend balance to her research. I did notice that she was co-
author on a couple papers with some of my personal favorites:
Baud, Radin, Tart, and Wiseman.

There is a number of research projects looking into the _mind_
effect which should have a bearing on the solution to ufos and
the paranormal events.

Just a brief note: where are the comments from the ufo heavies
on this matter. Jerry Clark recommended two books. One,
Varieties of Anomalous Experience Examining The Scientific
Evidence was way out of my price range even on Amazon's used
book list.

Friedman is totally silent. I have to wonder what that means.

Beware of contemplating how the observer might actually be
creating/participating in the phenomena?


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