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'Evidence' [was: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar]

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:45:01 -0000
Archived: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:06:19 -0500
Subject: 'Evidence' [was: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar]


>From: Rick Nielsen <nilthchi.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:15:55 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Re: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:41:09 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar

>>You can't have it both ways Rick. If I give an eye-witness
>>report in court of an event that no-one else saw, that's a
>>piece of "evidence".

>You're right Ray: I won't have it both ways.

><snip>

>A little skepticism is still a good thing. Don't you think?

Hi Rick,

Right, yet your interest in defining 'evidence' is more than
justified, because that question's a big problem for all of
science, including ufology.

At the moment scientists say that 'scientific evidence' must be
verifiable and repeatable (as you said). Which means that under
the same conditions, applying the same factors should produce
the same results. Yet it is becoming clear that science cannot
accurately measure or even reliably detect some of those
conditions and factors.

An example in the purely physical plane is that 'inertial
force'. We know it exists because bodies have inertia; which is
unexplainable by science just now:

www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/inertfey.txt

Science can't measure that force except by continually
monitoring the existing inertia of all bodies in their
experiments - and that's so inconvenient/difficult that it is
rarely if ever done. So most of our scientific experiments or
tests  are incomplete and therefore possibly flawed in that
respect.

Yet we also 'know/believe' - from many _official_ sightings -
that some bodies (UFOs) can act as if they are completely free
of inertia, and can even control or modify the inertia of nearby
human technology (and maybe humans' brains) -
http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/mar/m16-003.shtml

So those purely physical events/phenomena are outside the range
of our present (human) scientific questioning.

And in the esoteric and maybe recondite area of perceptions or
mental and maybe e.sp. effects, the situation seems even worse.

I.e analogous to 'inertia', science says that a "sheep-goat
effect" exists -

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/xge/36/3/271/

and

http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/psi/delanoy/delanoy.pdf

by which physical outcomes of experiments are actually changed
by the positive or negative mind-sets of participants.

Again it seems difficult or impossible to quantify -
continuously measure and monitor - the amount of 'positivity' or
'negativity' in the minds of participants. So again we are faced
with phenomena outside the range of our present (human)
scientific questioning.

Way to go.


Cheers

Ray D



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