From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 14:45:01 -0000 Archived: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:06:19 -0500 Subject: 'Evidence' [was: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar] >From: Rick Nielsen <nilthchi.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:15:55 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Re: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar >>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> >>To: <post.nul> >>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 10:41:09 -0000 >>Subject: Re: Abduction Story By Sammy Hagar >>You can't have it both ways Rick. If I give an eye-witness >>report in court of an event that no-one else saw, that's a >>piece of "evidence". >You're right Ray: I won't have it both ways. ><snip> >A little skepticism is still a good thing. Don't you think? Hi Rick, Right, yet your interest in defining 'evidence' is more than justified, because that question's a big problem for all of science, including ufology. At the moment scientists say that 'scientific evidence' must be verifiable and repeatable (as you said). Which means that under the same conditions, applying the same factors should produce the same results. Yet it is becoming clear that science cannot accurately measure or even reliably detect some of those conditions and factors. An example in the purely physical plane is that 'inertial force'. We know it exists because bodies have inertia; which is unexplainable by science just now: www.perceptions.couk.com/uef/inertfey.txt Science can't measure that force except by continually monitoring the existing inertia of all bodies in their experiments - and that's so inconvenient/difficult that it is rarely if ever done. So most of our scientific experiments or tests are incomplete and therefore possibly flawed in that respect. Yet we also 'know/believe' - from many _official_ sightings - that some bodies (UFOs) can act as if they are completely free of inertia, and can even control or modify the inertia of nearby human technology (and maybe humans' brains) - http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/mar/m16-003.shtml So those purely physical events/phenomena are outside the range of our present (human) scientific questioning. And in the esoteric and maybe recondite area of perceptions or mental and maybe e.sp. effects, the situation seems even worse. I.e analogous to 'inertia', science says that a "sheep-goat effect" exists - http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/xge/36/3/271/ and http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/psi/delanoy/delanoy.pdf by which physical outcomes of experiments are actually changed by the positive or negative mind-sets of participants. Again it seems difficult or impossible to quantify - continuously measure and monitor - the amount of 'positivity' or 'negativity' in the minds of participants. So again we are faced with phenomena outside the range of our present (human) scientific questioning. Way to go. Cheers Ray D Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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