From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:52:15 +0000 Archived: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 09:54:45 -0500 Subject: MILABS W/Wo Alien Abductions Listers, for your weekend reading pleasure. In 1999, MILABS was published. The authors were Dr. Helmut and Marion Lammer. Richard Sauder wrote the Foreward. The Lammers were academically trained, their research was extensive and broad. I would say the book was well researched. The book documents interaction between abductees and what they believed was kidnapping by the military. In latest book, John Alexander claims that 1) in an unpublished article that MILABS just can't happening - see his text for the reasons; 2) Dr. Helmut Lammer "published a "retraction stating he no longer believes his earlier material." Please note Alexander's article was never published anywhere - according to him. Alexander refers to Lammer's response posted on UFO UpDates. Here is the e-mail response: ----- Dear Errol Bruce-Knapp, From: Helmut Lammer To: ufoupdates.nul Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 09:53:30 +0200 Subject: Disclaimer Please note that I've not been involved in this kind of private research for more than 10 years, and the content of the article [below] does not reflect my present day opinion. Best wishes Helmut Lammer] --- Preliminary findings of Project MILAB: Evidence for Military Kidnappings of alleged UFO Abductees By Helmut Lammer Ph.D. _1996 ----- [End of post to UFO UpDates] Note that Lammer does not state what his present day opinion is, but never does it reflect a retraction of his previous work. My opinions about bottom line solutions changes with the passing years. Usually, material surfaces to validate earlier research, or not. For the first time in anywhere, I am going to provide information which I shared with Dr. Lammer. In a small way, I was a behind the scenes consultant to Dr. and Mrs. Lammer. Unnamed anywhere by request. Meeting An Insider In 1991 or 1992, I attended monthly meetings of a group called UFO Forum at the Felicia Manhood Center on Santa Monica Blvd. in West Los Angeles, CA. Over time, I got to be friends with the woman who ran the Forum. An experiencer. I had shared with her an incident that happened to me. It goes like this: one morning, I woke to a male voice saying "Good Morning, Kathy." The voice sounded as if it was coming from an echo chamber. Although very clear, it sounded both far away and close by. I thought it validated my research into a phenomena called silent sound using electromagnetic transmission. In a private conversation, Richard Sauder told me he had experienced the same phenomena. At one point in our friendship, the woman and I agreed to attend the UFO Expo at the L.A. Airport Los Angeles, sometime in 1991 or 1992. She stated there was someone she wanted me to meet. At the early evening break, we moved with a crowd of Expo goers out the back double doors into the alley behind the hotel. People milled about, smoking a cigarette or just satisfying the need to get outdoors. My friend called my attention to a guy standing across the alley leaning against the wall. She said, "don't stare. Just causally look in his direction." The break was over and the crowd moved back indoors. We remaining standing at the bottom of the short flight of stairs descending from the fire exit doors. The guy - who had been standing next to the wall - walked over and acknowledged my friend by her name. She introduced him. I will not provide the name he gave me, nor a physical description. You will understand why as you read on. The Insider stated he had worked for a company but did not agree with the technology their were developing. (I imagined Raytheon in El Segundo, CA, but could not get the Insider to respond to my question.) He had quit his job and was trying to get the word out to the public as to what was going on. He described technology he called drones. What today is commonly known as UAVs. At the time, I had no idea what he was describing. He claimed that the drones used satellites for guidance. What today was call GPS. At the time, I was still trying to figure out the delivery system for electromagnetic frequency. So, I asked him regarding my theory of a satellite delivery platform. He corrected my view by stating that the drones carried miniaturized technology capable of such a delivery system. What today we call nanotechnology. Further, he claimed that the drones had cameras, along with the remotely controlled operation of the electromagnetic technology. I would guess the equivalent of today's webcam. He told me that the drones were small enough to land on a target's roof, under a bedroom window, on a balcony, patio or wide ledge of a city apartment building. I was incredulous when he told me the drones made the sound of buzzing insects. I remember I got him to repeat that answer. Because experiencers were claiming a buzzing sound and flash of light just before the abduction scene commenced. I shared with Lammer this fact, but would not tell him how I knew about this aspect of MILABS. Except that a flash of light indicated the start of electromagnetic energy accessing the brain of the target. The Insider, when describing what he had been involved in, stood ramrod still and focused on my face. An indication he had briefed civilians many times before. After he gave me the information he wanted me to know, he started pacing around in circles. Without prompting, he told me that people from - let's us Richard Dolan's term - the _breakaway_ industry were looking for him. That this company had its own aircraft, trucks, cars, very large facilities, and - especially - their own security personnel. If he didn't keep moving, he would be found. He had signed a contract that guaranteed his silence. You see, private companies do not have to report to the public what they are doing - lack of accountability. Unlike government agencies. Private companies, with millions of unaccountable funds, have permission from the U.S. Federal government (under Federal Code and Executive Orders) to test covertly using members of the public. No Informed Consent. No need to disclose to the public want they are doing. It means that company personnel can wear whatever uniform or dress the way they need to. They are part of what I have called a _catchnet - program. A program using stalking, breaking into target's homes, and visiting a target dressed in military uniform or in the style of a Secret Service agent or whatever is necessary to get the job done. That is finding out if the targeting was effective. To my mind, demanding disclosure from the U.S., or any other government, just will not produce the alleged proof of a cover- up. Besides, private industry does not, is not required, to disclose the outcomes of their research and development. They can always claim: "it is a matter of National Security." Finally, I have disclosed how I knew what I knew and when I knew it. I still will not disclose the name and physical description of the Insider. Even though he would be able to state the name of the company who is quite probably the impetus resulting in the technology behind ufos, alien and _military_ abduction. Enjoy, KK Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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