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Re: Hypnosis & Abduction

From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 11:25:46 +0100
Archived: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:11:15 -0500
Subject: Re: Hypnosis & Abduction


>From: Emma Woods <e.woods33.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 19:28:25 -0700 (PDT)
>Subject: Hypnosis & Abduction [was: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile]

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:21:19 -0600
>>Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile

>>Sean Meers's current investigative paper and his
>>forthcoming, much larger one on Budd Hopkins-related
>>matters ought to serve as an object lesson, at least to
>>those who can be taught.

>Sean Meer's investigative paper really does not stand up
>to proper examination.

>For example, in Meers' new and updated final version of
>his article, on Page 40, he says:

>"Lie#8"

<snip>

>In my opinion Meers appears to be trying to focus on Dr.
>Lilienfeld's statement that some hypnotic memories may be
>accurate, together with a characterization of Dr. Lilienfeld's
>conclusions as "objective, informed, scientific and
>respectable", in a manner that is reminiscent of sleight of hand
>to try to support a "fact" that there is reason to continue
>using hypnosis.

>However, Dr. Lilienfeld made it very clear in his interview on
>the Paratopia show that he does not believe that the use of
>hypnosis for memory retrieval is reliable or valid.

>http://www.cyberears.com/index.php/Browse/playaudio/8658

>Sean Meers' characterization of Jeff Ritzmann's legitimate
>opinion on hypnosis as "Lie#8", and his misrepresentation of Dr.
>Lilienfeld's views on hypnosis as a "fact" in response to this
>supposed "lie", is just one of numerous problems throughout
>Meers' article.


Emma,

I risk a couple of remarks, in this long debate. First, to pay
homage to Sean Meers for his outstanding analysis of Carol
Rainey's article.

Of course, one may find some debatable points in such a long
argument and perhaps Emma Woods has found one. I would say that
the rejection of hypnosis as a valid tool in abduction
investigations is a blind attitude rather than a lie. It's just
a question of choice ot the most appropriate word.

Again, the case of Betty and Barney Hill, to cite just one, is
exemplary of how a story of abduction was dug out under hypnosis
by a psychiatrist, who could not believe it! At least, he did
not provoke it, and this case alone shows how efficient hypnosis
can be.

But let's turn to a question, addressed by Sean Meers to Emma
Woods, in his note "Insult 5". He quotes Carol Rainey:

"But when it comes to the wholesale creation and public offering
of an entire genre of performance art called 'the alien
abduction phenomenon', nobody's held responsible of anything."

And he asks: "How is Emma supposed to feel about that, being
perceived as an actor?"

Yes, Emma, how do you feel about that?


Gildas Bourdais






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