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Re: Scrap Propaganda Address The Issues

From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul>
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 08:51:23 -0600
Archived: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:42:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Scrap Propaganda Address The Issues

>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:41:07 +0100
>Subject: Re: Scrap Propaganda Address The Issues

>>From: Carol Rainey <csrainey2.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 00:21:49 -0500
>>Subject: Scrap Propaganda Address The Issues [was: The
>>Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile]

>>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 20:39:35 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile


>>>Wow, not just discrediting Hopkins and Cortile, but Carol Rainey
>>>is assassinating them. Isn't that hyperbole a little over the

>>Hello, Concerned Listers,

>>I'd like to directly address the flying accusations about my bad
>>taste in timing and lack of concern for "the dying Hopkins."


>>I'd say that Budd Hopkins, although coping with a serious
>>illness, is still very much up and swinging.

>>I should know.

>>Now, would it be possible to actually discuss the _issues_ about
>>alien abduction research?


>I think you are the one who poses a "serious ethical problem".

Then one only exceeded by your own, Sir! You would appear to
engage in what may prove to be a rush to the myth-ization of
Budd Hopkins for the benefit of those intellectually,
emotionally, or financially _invested_ in Budd Hopkins. Given
all that's been revealed that stuns credulity, at best.

>I am baffled to see how you are still around, spying on him.

The woman made that abundantly clear, Mr. Bourdais. They share a

"Spying" is just another, and wholly predicable, value judgment
on your part, a judgment fomenting the general enmity and
mendaciousness pervading presently and thereby committing the
ethical breech alluded to. Budd Hopkins is not above the
standard to which you would ascribe, Sir. He is not yet a saint
in Heaven's Hallowed Halls.

Too, one would be glad, one would think, that Hopkins has the
opportunity to defend his work, even at this eleventh hour, and
that he has some spirit/will with which to prosecute same.
Actually passed, I suspect you'd be one of the first, Mr.
Bourdais, to ironically bemoan the fact that Hopkins was not
around to defend himself. Well, he _is_ around to defend

Should he _have_ to? Is _anyone_ under such requirement, Mr.
Bourdais when _legitimate_ questions arise? Wasn't even Einstein
trifled with questions on his death-bed?

>If you still care for your ex-husband, the best you can do for
>him is to leave him alone, now.

In light of _your_ obvious cant, I submit that it is in no way
appropriate that you advise Ms. Rainey with regard to anything,
actually, in as much as it is not you who was intimately
involved at the most existential levels of Hopkins' research
effort, forgetting Hopkins _himself_, for a decade, and starting
that decade, mind you, in all admiration, only to _lose_ all
that admiration as the decade wore on. Where did that admiration
go and _why_, Mr. Bourdais, in not worked into your equation on
the matter. You , Sir, divide by zero.

Woman scorned? Only when we can give equal time to the
'Gentleman' scorned, Mr. Bourdais.

>You have harmed him enough.

There's another biased value judgment (BVJ) based on the lack of
acknowledgement of the cause of all this consternation.

>How can you call him, coldly, "the dying man"? This is really

What's shocking, Sir, is that you can come up with yet _another_
BVJ, and every one a literary device to create dissention and
hostility, a refusal to face facts, and the memorialization or
mythification where it _may_yet_be_ that none is deserved.

See, the only thing coldly delivered by Ms. Rainey was that
Hopkins, while seriously ill, is _not_ dying in the manner
prematurely eulogized by boosters like yourself. You got that
one wrong, too.

Closing, one can say what one wants about Budd Hopkins, who
_may_ or may _not_ yet prove to be a great man, but it's my
experience that a "good" cop without qualification standing up
for a "bad" cop is, himself, a "bad" cop at the end of the day.
Broad brushed, but paint sticks.

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