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Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:58:12 +0000
Archived: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 07:41:41 -0500
Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 09:40:02 -0600
>Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:03:43 +0000
>>Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 13:16:57 -0600
>>>Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile

>>>>From: SMiles Lewis <elfis.nul>
>>>>To: post.nul
>>>>Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 10:37:41 -0800 (PST)
>>>>Subject: Re: The Assassination Of Hopkins & Cortile

>>>One of the cited critics, incidentally, tried to have me
>>>arrested for something or other. (No officer of the law showed
>>>up at my door.) I guess that's one way to "improve" the field:
>>>have ufologists with whom we disagree locked behind bars. Can
>>>we look forward to more of that?

>>>I guess that in 2011 this is what ufology has come to. No wonder
>>>we're getting nowhere. How truly, truly sad.

>>Good grief, ufology can't have it both ways.

>Kathy, I have no doubt that you mean well, which is to say I
>have no reason whatever to demonize you as a corrupt, malicious
>individual. On the other hand, in your many posts on UpDates, I
>see no evidence, I'm sad to say, that you know a whole lot about
>this complex field: its history, its body of evidence, its
>controversies, its approaches, its literature, its
>personalities. Still, God knows you have no shortage of opinions
>about just about everything that manages to find its way to this
>List. I feel no need to pay a whole lot of attention to them not
>because I think you're a bad person; it's just that often you
>don't seem to know what you're talking about even while,
>inexplicably to me, you betray every evidence of being impressed
>with your own iconoclastic genius.

>If you really are concerned with the scientific way - the kind
>without scare quotes - in a more than rhetorical sense, I would
>strongly encourage you to educate yourself and, armed with a
>broader range of knowledge, to think harder before putting half-
>baked assertions, accusations, and speculations out there with
>such dizzying abandon. There are individuals on this List with
>whom I have profound differences, but they come by their views
>from knowledge, experience, and long reflection. To call upon
>the hoariest of clich=E9s, they've paid their dues. Yours looks,
>on the other hand, more like a free ride.

>Jerry Clark

>BTW - To anticipate the inevitable: _of course_ your right to
>post here whenever you wish to do so is not the issue. It's the
>content of those postings. And if you want to dish it out - and
>you do at every opportunity - you're going to have to take it in
>return. That, after all, is the scientific way.

Thanks, Jerry, but I empowered myself a long time ago and feel
free to provide opinions - half-baked in your eyes - any time I
feel the spirit.

My guess is that you think because I don't quote verse and line
of the many, many case reports from tons of books written on the
subject, I have no right to my opinion. Gosh, it would become a
boring read if I listed all the UFO books I have read,
ufologists I have commiserated with - including yourself. The
problem for you is that I don't always agree with you. I still
think you are lovable, love your writing style and your wit.


KK



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