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Re: Jacobs & Alien Hybrids

From: Steve Sawyer <stevesaw.nul>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 03:15:17 -0800
Archived: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 06:35:23 -0500
Subject: Re: Jacobs & Alien Hybrids


>From: Gene Steinberg <gene.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:01:57 -0700
>Subject: Re: Jacobs & Alien Hybrids

>>From: Emma Woods <e.woods33.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 04:53:34 -0800 (PST)
>>Subject: Jacobs & Alien Hybrids

>'Emma' or whoever you are, this is becoming an unfortunate
>broken record, and it's time you stop repeating this over and
>over and over again to the point of exhaustion.

>I am sorry if you were hurt by David Jacobs or anyone else. But
>your place for redress is not posting massive quantities of
>information on a Web site, sending out thousands of emails and
>message board posts, writing magazine articles, and appearing on
>radio shows.

>You have, by dint of your claim to fame, pretty much worn out
>your right to hide behind the mask of anonymity. It's time you
>reveal who you really area and, if you still feel you have a
>valid complaint against Jacobs or anyone else, please take that
>to the proper venue. If you have a case that will deliver a cash
>reward for damages, there are probably attorneys in the U.S.
>who'd take that case on a contingency basis, meaning they only
>get paid if you get paid.

>Really, you need to get a life. You've said your piece, and it's
>time to move on.

Hi, Gene and Listers,

"Really, you need to get a life. You've said your piece, and
it's time to move on."

Jeez, I dunno Gene. Maybe you and Jerry should get together and
start a new religion. Perhaps join a club. Or something. Just an
idle thought, of course. Or so one might infer. 8^}

Get a life? Time to move on? How arrogant and dismissive.

You'd like that, wouldn't you? I think Emma's next step, in
fact, _should_ be to try to get legal redress of her complaints.
But she can't "get a life" or "move on" until the critical
issues her case raises have been properly addressed and
hopefully resolved.

And they haven't been, so far. People like you, Clark, and a
plethora of other defenders of the faith as expressed by Jacobs
and Hopkins would just love this controversy to go away, and be
swept under the rug or not upset the precarious applecart of
conformist ufological belief and interpretation of "alien
abduction" of long but erroneous standing.

But it won't, and shouldn't, until Jacobs and Hopkins issue full
mea culpas, apologize, and agree to stop using regressive
hypnosis to supposedly "recover" allegedly "suppressed
memories," and so far there is still no sign either of them are
willing or even able to do so, is there?

They won't, and maybe can't, due to their inextricably warped
views that they are right, that their misinterpretations of the
"alien abduction" scenarios (both of them, despite the differing
and conflicted two different synopses they have written about,
not to mention those of Mack, Sprinkle, and other practitioners
of regressive hypnosis), and due to their fear of the personal
consequences of taking the needed responsibility for their
actions, legally, financially, ethically, and I  suspect,
primarily psychologically and emotionally. The Augean stables
are long past needing Heracles to attempt to clean up this awful
mess.

This is a clear case of cognitive dissonance and self-defense
(as Leon Festinger, et al, in "When Prophecy Fails," as early as
1956, abundantly illustrated) of both their egos and self-
perceived identities as honest researchers and decent, caring
human beings, regardless of the obvious facts in this matter.

So they will continue to try to refute, dismiss, ridicule, and
deny that either Emma Woods or Carol Rainey, among others, have
either a case or just possibly might be right in their claims
until they are brought to account by the evidence or forced to
by civil legal or legislative means, most likely.

Instead, they issue defensive, dismissive statements to attempt
to denigrate their accusers, Woods and Rainey, among others, and
continue their egregiously misbegotten and unscientific
practices based on their personal and apparently subliminal
confirmation biases, gather the faithful, and accept accolades
and kudos from those who still believe in thier false
conclusions and practices, which is simply delusional and
plainly wrong.

This is a battle royale, and for you or anyone else to suggest
or urge those so treated to "get a life" or that it is "time to
move on" is simply yet another feeble attempt and reflection of
an arrogance and  misbegotten hubris that I personally find both
amazing and almost delusional itself in nature and origin.

No, this isn't over by a long shot. But I do agree that, at this
point, legal action on the part of Emma Woods in particular, for
slander, libel, and malfeasance should be brought against David
Jacobs. Of course, that means she will have to probably
eventually reveal her real name at some point, find the means
and financial support required to travel from Australia to bring
a lengthy civil suit, and stay here long enough, utterly
disrupting her life, as may be required, to deal with the
inevitable delays and legal appeals even if she does win her
case, which is by no means certain, and the formidable
logistical and financial obstacles such a course of action
obviously presents will not be easy to overcome, as you should
well know. But, it may be necessary, unless some other form of
compromise and arbitration is agreed to in order to preclude
such a difficult and trying avenue, for all parties so involved.

In the meantime, why should she retreat from defending herself
from the dismissive and denigrating slings and arrows so many
such as yourself and many others continue to hurl her way? Under
the circumstances, if you put yourself in her place, would you?
No, I didn't think so. To do so would be quite hypocritical, in
fact.

I think "Emma Woods" is one tough bird, and will not give up the
fight for redress easily. Yes, she most probably does need
psychological therapy, especially now since her apparently very
damaging interactions with Jacobs, which are so clearly shown in
the abuse of her psyche the "good doctor" has subjected her to
as illuminated by the audio tapes Jacobs made and so oddly and
obliviously provided to her, but I suspect if anyone needs any
form of psychotherapy, it is Jacobs (and Hopkins, by extension,
due to similar abusive and manipulative practices) himself,
IMHO.


Steve






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