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Re: Experience Anomaly?

From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:15:27 -0700
Archived: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:01:16 -0400
Subject: Re: Experience Anomaly?

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:53:01 -0500
>Subject: Re: Experience Anomaly?

>>From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:35:07 -0700
>>Subject: Experience Anomaly? [was: Third Kingdom Experiences]

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 12:31:01 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Third Kingdom Experiences

>>"The most alarming thing that caught my attention immediately
>>was the head," Francovich said. The upper part of the skull was
>>disproportionately wide, the eyes were huge, black and almond-
>>shaped, with no whites or pupils visible. It had "two tiny
>>nostrils where we would think of a nose being, and the lips were
>>very small and not well-defined at all, just a tiny slit in the
>>face. Its ears seemed to be dropped down a little bit and were
>>very much smaller than ours, pressed flat against the head,"
>>Francovich said."


>>Is this an "Experience Anomaly?

>If true, about which I have my doubts, it would be what I call
>an anomalous event. So would, if true, cases of alleged
>spontaneous human combustion.

>To spare further misunderstanding, I urge you to read not just a
>single paragraph but all of my "Experience Anomalies" essay in
>Fortean Times 243.


I think I understand the point you're making but I don't
understand the distinction between a witness reporting fairies
on the lawn and someone reporting an alien in a lime orchard. If
they are both telling the truth about their experience and not
hallucinating,then they would seem to me to be having an
experience and since it's an unusual experience, it would seem
to be an anomaly.

A friend of mine had a stroke while watching TV. He said that
the only thing he remembered was all his old friends suddenly
walking through the front door and sitting down next to him. He
then remembered waking up in the hospital. He told me later:
"Ed, you can't believe how real my old friends seemed. Just as
real as you and me sitting here." Where does that fit into your

My research indicates that abductions are either real events
like the Hills, or Hixson and Parker, or outright lies. If two
witnesses report the same experience, then there's a good chance
it's true. But in your experience anomaly, facts can be both
true and false at the same time. In the example above, my friend
seemed to experience a real event. His stroke gave us an
explanation, but to him it was a real event. Is this similar to
what you're suggesting only without the stroke? I'm not trying
to be confrontational, but I'm having trouble understanding your

Also, why do you have trouble believing KT's experience? Do you
know who she is? Did you bother reading the entire article?
Could you provide an example of what you consider an "experience

I was not able to find the specific article you cited at the
Fortean site. Could you provide a link although I think I
understand your theory. It just doesn't make any sense and I
don't think it makes sense to anyone else on the List. Maybe
you're on to something. It certainly sounds deep and
inscrutable, but lacks meaning and most of all, from a
scientific standpoint, predictability.


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