From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:14:05 +0100 Archived: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 07:30:45 -0400 Subject: Re: Third Kingdom Experiences >From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:12:36 -0500 >Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case <snip> >Such experiences of the ostensibly supernatural (or, if you >prefer, extraordinarily anomalous) can be sustained, complex, >and extremely hard to explain, either literally or prosaically. >They occur in what has been called liminal space, partly objective, >partly subjective, a kind of Third Kingdom that mocks our lazy >notion that either things are or they aren't. By their nature >we can neither prove nor disprove them. They exist - often >vividly - in experience, and experience alone. Jerry, it's your last sentence here I'd like to comment on: "They exist - often vividly - in experience, and experience alone." But my point in discussing The Gold Leaf Lady and Skinwalker and if you like acres of parapsychological literature, is that just sometimes these things exist in experience but also NOT in experience alone. There are such things as 'apports' - solid objects which seemingly 'arrive' from elsewhere as in the brass in Braude's case, the prize bulls which were moved from a field to a container in the Skinwalker case and umpteen coins, jewellery and photographs in the Scole case. How do we fit these permanent incursions into our solid physical world into your Third Kingdom concept except by surmising that there is a multi-dimensional universe where there can occasionally be 'bleed throughs' from other worlds to ours? Or do I suspect that you dismiss entirely the claimed phenomena mentioned above? Thanks for the mention of those books in another posting - I will definitely be seeking them out. Dave Haith Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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