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Re: Third Kingdom Experiences

From: Gerald O'Connell <goc.nul>
Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 02:34:59 +0100
Archived: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:29:24 -0400
Subject: Re: Third Kingdom Experiences

>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:46:40 +0100
>Subject: Third Kingdom Experiences [was: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case]


>The questions are endless and unanswerable.

>So, as in a wealth of other incidents such as occurred at the
>Skinwalker Ranch, and often in UFO lore, we have totally bizarre
>and illogical happenings which to use your phrase, occur in "a
>kind of Third Kingdom that mocks our lazy notion  that either
>things are or they aren't."

>It reminds me of physicist Sir William Crookes, president of the
>Royal Society and paranormal investigator who in 1874, when
>challenged by sceptics, said: "I didn't say it was possible, I
>just said it happened"

>It seems to my humble mind that if impossible things contantly
>happen, then we have to revise our definition of what is
>possible - in other words accept that our view of reality is
>totally flawed.

The problem starts when we look dispassionately at the protocols
we set for what we know. For example, scientific knowledge
depends heavily on axioms involving consistency and
predictability. But, at the same time, we have no a priori
grounds for believing that we inhabit a universe that is
predictable and consistent. In fact, there is evidence (much of
it scientific) that we live in a universe that is inconsistent
and unpredictable.

Handling the cognitive dissonance that this situation creates is
somewhat troublesome. Many of the debates and disagreements that
populate this list testify to just how troublesome we find our
situation to be.

We could characterise it thus: although the epistemological
tools we possess for understanding the universe we inhabit can
be shown to be faulty and inadequate, they remain the only, and
therefore the best, tools we have. Until we find better and more
appropriate ones, we are condemned to working with the tools we

If this is right, then we need to keep a few things in mind.
Uppermost in this is the fact that we have no basis for
abandoning the tools of logic and science that are axiomatically
embedded in our thought processes and which govern our
epistemology. At the same time, we cannot afford to reject or
ignore evidence and facts that run counter to that epistemology.

In many ways our predicament is bleak. It pricks the bubble of
pride and self esteem invested in our world view, and it
undermines concepts like 'progress' which we tend to take for
granted when we consider our civilisation and its relationship
with the universe.

Perhaps the best we can do is to oppose any lapse (collapse?)
into crude superstition, while retaining a healthy scepticism
about the scientific superstitions to which we are inevitably
subject. If we can achieve this while showing a benign
understanding for some of the absurdities into which our
predicament will force some of us, then we might just,
collectively, inch our way forward... --

Gerald O'Connell

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