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Re: Third Kingdom Experiences

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:43:44 -0500
Archived: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 05:27:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Third Kingdom Experiences


>>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:46:40 +0100
>>Subject: Third Kingdom Experiences [was: Alien Museum On Alien
>>Abduction Case]

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:12:36 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case


>>It reminds me of physicist Sir William Crookes, president of the
>>Royal Society and paranormal investigator who in 1874, when
>>challenged by sceptics, said: "I didn't say it was possible, I
>>just said it happened"

>Stanislaw Lem, the great Polish writer of philosophical science fiction,
>once remarked that it doesn't matter if something is impossible; if it
>happened, it happened.

I found this quote from an interview earlier this year with
Jeffrey Kripal (head of the religious studies department at Rice
University, writer of Authors of the Impossible, a recent
University of Chicago Press booklength examination of Fort,
Vallee, and others). Prof. Kripal is speaking of what I call
experience anomalies, also decrying intellectuals' failure to
come to grips with such extraordinary-encounter claims:

"I am saying that you cannot read genuine paranormal events as
simply subjective occurrences, as 'anecdotes' - talk about an
intellectual cop-out or sleight of hand! - but neither can you
read them as stable, predictable, replicable, measurable things
'out there,' unrelated to subjective states of consciousness.
They are both subjective and objective. Or, if you prefer, they
are neither."


Jerry Clark



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