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Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:15:45 +0000
Archived: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:16:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:12:36 -0500
>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:39:20 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:46:41 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case


>>Your position, as stated in previous e-mail (thanks for
>>correcting the grammar), implies that the so-called abduction
>>experience is very different from ET craft flying around in the
>>skies.

>>If that is your position, who the hell is flying the ET craft?

>>I have often wondered how [ETH-oriented ufologists] reconcile
>>what is seen in the skies with what individuals experience in
>>encounters with what they claim are ETs. Have you figure that
>>out?

<snip>

>Writing about puzzling first-person testimony to one variety of
>experience anomaly (worldwide fairy encounters), the folklorists
>Lizanne Henderson and Edward J. Cowan remark, "It should be
>possible to believe one's informants without believing their
>explanations" - by which they mean, it needs to be stressed,
>nothing reductive. Such experiences of the ostensibly
>supernatural (or, if you prefer, extraordinarily anomalous) can
>be sustained, complex, and extremely hard to explain, either
>literally or prosaically. They occur in what has been called
>liminal space, partly objective, partly subjective, a kind of
>Third Kingdom that mocks our lazy notion that either things are
>or they aren't. By their nature we can neither prove nor
>disprove them. They exist - often vividly - in experience,
>and experience alone.

>In a sense, experience anomalies are dreams transplanted into
>the world - and by that I mean nothing reductive. I mean a
>crude analogy, not a psychological (non)explanation. I mean a
>class of common human experiences we don't understand at all,
>next to which visiting ETs seem barely extraordinary at all.

Thanks, Jerry:

It would appear we agree on a possible definition of the
phenomena. However, I have decided, after years of thinking
about it, so-called ET craft is another aspect of highly bizarre
events. Without the hard evidence of an actual nuts and bolts
craft, I lean toward a more psychological explanation. Or, some
not understood phenomena affecting the neurological environment
of human perception.

I take a cue from Terence McKenna's descriptions of "shamans'
journeys".

Our cultural head trips require a technological solution rather
than some other explanation. For all practical purposes, let's
call it a spiritual response. Maybe, what was once upon a time
lumped in with actual contact with the "gods."

Today, our 'gods' have to appear more technologically advanced
than we mere humans. Otherwise, we would not take notice of
'them'.


KK



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