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Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 18:15:45 +0000
Archived: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 10:16:35 -0400
Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:12:36 -0500
>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:39:20 +0000
>>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 10:46:41 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Alien Museum On Alien Abduction Case

>>Your position, as stated in previous e-mail (thanks for
>>correcting the grammar), implies that the so-called abduction
>>experience is very different from ET craft flying around in the

>>If that is your position, who the hell is flying the ET craft?

>>I have often wondered how [ETH-oriented ufologists] reconcile
>>what is seen in the skies with what individuals experience in
>>encounters with what they claim are ETs. Have you figure that


>Writing about puzzling first-person testimony to one variety of
>experience anomaly (worldwide fairy encounters), the folklorists
>Lizanne Henderson and Edward J. Cowan remark, "It should be
>possible to believe one's informants without believing their
>explanations" - by which they mean, it needs to be stressed,
>nothing reductive. Such experiences of the ostensibly
>supernatural (or, if you prefer, extraordinarily anomalous) can
>be sustained, complex, and extremely hard to explain, either
>literally or prosaically. They occur in what has been called
>liminal space, partly objective, partly subjective, a kind of
>Third Kingdom that mocks our lazy notion that either things are
>or they aren't. By their nature we can neither prove nor
>disprove them. They exist - often vividly - in experience,
>and experience alone.

>In a sense, experience anomalies are dreams transplanted into
>the world - and by that I mean nothing reductive. I mean a
>crude analogy, not a psychological (non)explanation. I mean a
>class of common human experiences we don't understand at all,
>next to which visiting ETs seem barely extraordinary at all.

Thanks, Jerry:

It would appear we agree on a possible definition of the
phenomena. However, I have decided, after years of thinking
about it, so-called ET craft is another aspect of highly bizarre
events. Without the hard evidence of an actual nuts and bolts
craft, I lean toward a more psychological explanation. Or, some
not understood phenomena affecting the neurological environment
of human perception.

I take a cue from Terence McKenna's descriptions of "shamans'

Our cultural head trips require a technological solution rather
than some other explanation. For all practical purposes, let's
call it a spiritual response. Maybe, what was once upon a time
lumped in with actual contact with the "gods."

Today, our 'gods' have to appear more technologically advanced
than we mere humans. Otherwise, we would not take notice of


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