From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:29:01 -0500 Archived: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:50:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits >From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:33:39 -0400 >Subject: Re: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits >>From: Martin Shough<parcellular.nul> >>To:<post.nul> >>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:35:51 +0100 >>Subject: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits >>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul> >>>To: post.nul >>>Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:48:53 -0400 >>>Subject: Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature >>I would add that even in this one case every year or two, when >>an interceptor crashes during a "real UFO" incident (i.e., >>generally a radar track which ends up not attributable to a >>known aircraft and remains otherwise not accounted for), nothing >>in these statistics tells you: a) that the crash had any causal >>relation to the presence of the target; or b) that, if there was >>a causal relation, it had anything to do with alien technology. >>Since accidents do happen, it is incumbent on the claimant to >>prove that the observed rate is significantly higher than chance >>expectation and/or that in specific cases no other mundane >>explanation is tenable. >This is all very interesting, and thanks to Brad Sparks for his >interpretation of the data. It does raise the question, though, >why the Commanding General, US Air Defense Command, would say >that "we have lost many men and planes trying to intercept >them". Was he misquoted? "Misquoted" may be a generous characterization. The quote is, let us say, of questionable provenance. It came through a long-forgotten UFO personality, then a teenager moreover, who was associated with other unprovable, if not outright false, claims. Beyond that, it is not credible on its face. If the allegation were true, it amount to a major national-security secret, and it would not be confided to a lowly saucer buff by a prominent military figure -- and for attribution yet. The quote (first printed in 1955) was placed in the mouth of Gen. Benjamin Chidlaw, head of Eastern Air Defense. For a discussion of its source (Robert Coe Gardner), see my Strange Skies, pp. 141-42. Jerry Clark Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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