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Re: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:29:01 -0500
Archived: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:50:49 -0400
Subject: Re: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits


>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:33:39 -0400
>Subject: Re: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits

>>From: Martin Shough<parcellular.nul>
>>To:<post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:35:51 +0100
>>Subject: Claimed Aircraft Losses In UFO Pursuits

>>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:48:53 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature

>>I would add that even in this one case every year or two, when
>>an interceptor crashes during a "real UFO" incident (i.e.,
>>generally a radar track which ends up not attributable to a
>>known aircraft and remains otherwise not accounted for), nothing
>>in these statistics tells you: a) that the crash had any causal
>>relation to the presence of the target; or b) that, if there was
>>a causal relation, it had anything to do with alien technology.
>>Since accidents do happen, it is incumbent on the claimant to
>>prove that the observed rate is significantly higher than chance
>>expectation and/or that in specific cases no other mundane
>>explanation is tenable.

>This is all very interesting, and thanks to Brad Sparks for his
>interpretation of the data. It does raise the question, though,
>why the Commanding General, US Air Defense Command, would say
>that "we have lost many men and planes trying to intercept
>them". Was he misquoted?

"Misquoted" may be a generous characterization.

The quote is, let us say, of questionable provenance. It came
through a long-forgotten UFO personality, then a teenager
moreover, who was associated with other unprovable, if not
outright false, claims. Beyond that, it is not credible on its
face. If the allegation were true, it amount to a major
national-security secret, and it would not be confided to a
lowly saucer buff by a prominent military figure -- and for
attribution yet.

The quote (first printed in 1955) was placed in the mouth of
Gen. Benjamin Chidlaw, head of Eastern Air Defense. For a
discussion of its source (Robert Coe Gardner), see my Strange
Skies, pp. 141-42.


Jerry Clark




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