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Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Sun, 05 Jun 2011 20:36:52 -0400
Archived: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:23:26 -0400
Subject: Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature 

>From: Martin Shough<parcellular.nul>
>Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 20:21:35 +0100
>Subject: Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature

>>From: Eleanor White<ewraven1.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 17:03:33 -0400
>>Subject: Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature

>>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2011 11:16:13 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: A Haunebu II Photo Feature


>Of course I have looked at his collection. In just one or two
>cases there are elliptical features that might not be random
>noise (that's not to say they are "toroids", but that they are
>image features that seem to invite some sort interpretation),
>but in the great majority of cases I judge that William's shapes
>are a type of pareidolia.

When the same shape is seen over and over in different contexts,
then it's time to start thinking it's more than a figment of the
imagination. You do agree in the following paragraph that most
of the cases have an elliptical feature. I would add that they
are better fitted with a donut shape rather than an ellipse.

>There are, what, a couple of dozen photos here? This is a
>negligibly small proportion of the number of alleged saucer
>photos extant, and in most of these cases the elliptical feature
>is subtle to say the least, and at least as likely to be a
>product of the expectant eye connecting the random dots in a
>situation where noise is ampified so as to compete with signal
>(often deliberately) .

A couple of dozen cases is enough to make the point. As I have
said before, the visibility of the anomaly must be affected by
background and lighting conditions, its orientation in space,
and perhaps other unknown factors controlled by the craft. It
would be more surprising if the anomaly were always there.

>As a check on the acuity of my own pareidolian instincts I
>decided to look for quadrilateral artefacts on William's photos,
>instead of elliptical ones. They are not always immediately
>obvious and, as with most of William's toroids, a certain
>"training" of the eye is necessary before you begin to see them.
>I think I was fairly successful, but you can judge if I was as
>successful as William was with his toroids:


I don't see quadrilateral shapes with one nested inside the
other. That would correspond to the donut shape which is an
ellipse nested inside a larger ellipse. Further, your
quadrilateral shapes seem randomly located relative to the
craft, so are not nearly as constrained as the toroidal shapes
with respect to position. The toroids are typically situated
very near or touching the craft. It's clear your quadrilateral
shapes are not equivalent.


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