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Re: Devastating Critique Of Jacobsen's 'Area 51'

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:40:43 +0000
Archived: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:22:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Devastating Critique Of Jacobsen's 'Area 51'


>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:54:47 -0300
>Subject: Re: Devastating Critique Of Jacobsen's 'Area 51' Book

>>From: Joshua Laudermilk <joshua.laudermilk.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:52:13 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Devastating Critique Of Jacobsen's 'Area 51' Book

>>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:57:16 -0300
>>>Subject: Re: Devastating Critique Of Jacobsen's 'Area 51' Book

<snip>

>>>I see that there is one on here who still thinks that Jacobsen
>>>was thinking 'outside of the box'. Apparently if Jacobsen's book
>>>is an example of wild-eyed speculation and any foolish theory
>>>regardless of how silly it might be is claimed as 'thinking
>>>outside the box' while reason and common sense when it comes to
>>>theories have no value.

>>I know you are aware of how many think that the ETH explanation,
>>as given by me and others, is equally if not more wild-eyed
>>speculative and foolish and silly than the EG&G source (via Ms.
>>Jacobsen) gives. I was thinking that the new hypothesis
>>presented was outside the box and would make those seeking a
>>third position on Roswell, that something happened but it wasn't
>>a Mogul baloon or an ET craft, would be happy to receive this
>>new hypothesis. Karl Pflock and Brad Sparks are but two who do
>>not support the previous positions but were looking for another
>>explanation. Perhaps the Roswell Incident was the result of a
>>meteroite, asteroid or comet. There's a third position right
>>there. Or, a more colorful and exciting third position is the
>>Stalin-Mengele callaboration with the help of nazi scientists at
>>NII-88.

>>>No one who has an inkling of what was going on at the War's end
>>>would give any credence to this volume of fiction.

>>Most people I encounter wouldn't give any credence to me putting
>>forth an extratterestrial origin for the Roswell Incident. And
>>I've explained the ETH to many people and the past and they
>>thought both ETH and what I had to say were stupid. So while you
>>and I don't buy into the EG&G engineer's reporting of events, a
>>cursory overview of the reviews of Ms. Jacobsen's book on
>>Amazon.com shows that very many who consider the EG&G source's
>>story to be ridiculous, consider the ETH explanation to be
>>equally preposterous, outlandish and unbelievable.

>>Josh

>The comments I put up here a couple of days ago were not
>intended to argue the ETH or the Roswell event. I leave Roswell
>to Stan Friedman, Kevin Randle and others.


Dear List:

I would like to point out that the only comment regarding
Jacobsen's take on Roswell was made by Stanton Friedman.
Something to the effect that "it was rubbish".

No one else has commented except with a flip of the palm and 'oh
well what do you expect she's not one of us'. No, but her
report, to my mind, is the third one discussing "deformed
children" or similar tale regarding the pilots - i.e., the
bodies found at the "crash site."

The rumors now floating around are as follows:

1) Report from Jacobsen from EG&G engineer of "deformed
children" flying exotic air craft.

2) Report from Nick Redfern from "insider", as I remember it,
from Oak Ridge Lab. In this case malformed children.

3) Report of rumors around Roswell from John Price of "deformed
children" as pilots of exotic air craft.

I guess the old guard gets to toss away the above rumors and
even put down Jacobsen for repeating one of the rumors that has
never been pursued by the community of ufo investigators.

There is substance to these rumors. But, they were not children,
nor deformed, but Fort Stanton does figure into the rumor.


KK



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