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Re: Paratopia PodCast 55

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:03:30 +0000
Archived: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 05:59:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Paratopia PodCast 55

>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:03:37 -0000
>Subject: Re: Paratopia PodCast 55

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:28:34 +0000
>>Subject: Paratopia PodCast 55


>>>Paratopia PodCast 55: Dr. Scott Lilienfeld On Hypnosis, Hopkins
>>>& Jacobs
>>Thanks for this link, Errol.


>>Apparently, an untrained hypnotherapist can plant "false"
>>memories just to support their agenda.

>Hi Kathy

>A short documentary investigation of the power of hypnotic
>'planting' of false memories was made some decades ago (I saw it
>on BBC TV and think it was Canadian or USA).

>As I recall, a professional psychologist (the demonstrator) was
>filmed at work for some days, without telling his staff the

>On day 1 he mentioned to his secretary that he was a little
>tired and 'incidentally' asked if she had slept well the
>previous night (night 'zero') - to establish the facts. She
>replied she'd had an undisturbed night's sleep. Later that day
>he put her into a hypnotic trance and asked if she had heard a
>loud noise during the night - she 'thought so'.

>On day 2 he asked her the same question about night 'zero' and
>she answered she'd been woken by a loud noise after midnight.
>Then he put her into a trance again and asked if she'd heard a
>loud noise 'like a pistol shot' during night 'zero' - again she
>'thought so'.

>Next day he simply asked the intital question about night 'zero'
>and the secretary - a stable woman in her thirties - stated
>definitely that she'd been woken by a pistol shot near her
>house, at a specific time after midnight. That false memory was
>created simply by asking questions under hypnosis.

>It appears that under hypnosis there is a strong compulsion to
>'please' the questioner by agreeing with conclusions implied by

>Even in the wide-awake state we are susceptible; i.e i) a small
>lie repeated often enough tends to be accepted as true; ii) a
>'big lie' (from 'authority') tends to be accepted as true
>because it's mentally difficult to deny it by reason of
>'morality' or 'patriotism' or other strong motives.

>And I determined, by a written question to an impartial radio
>prog (long gone) which had the power to question BBC editors,
>that the BBC was well aware of, and probably often used, two
>other factors largely unknown to the public:

>i) 'talking over' the last words of a sentence will tend to
>erase the meaning or content of that sentence from the
>listeners' minds;

>ii) leaving a two second gap after a sentence will imprint that
>sentence on the listeners' minds as 'important' or 'significant'
>- even if it was nonsense.

>All in all I'm reminded of a folk saying - believe nothing you
>hear, and only half of what you see. Especially when dealing
>with those long-skilled in such arcane matters - that is, gov't,
>media and 'security'.


Did you listen to the PodCast? Dr. Lillenfeld, I thought,
explained what is known about how, so far, about how the
subconscious works. I agreed with most of his conclusions as I
discovered for myself how easily the subconscious obeyed the
conscious mind's command.

I just shared with Jim Moseley, of Saucer Smear, how I stopped
the so-called abduction experience in my own life. It was after
I figured out the triggers in my environment and simply put up a
"thought wall" to stop it. I couldn't believe how simple it was
to stop it. Now, I am reading encounter accounts and trying to
create a very new way to evaluate them. I have noticed many
serious researchers into the phenomena go to the edge but pull
back just before leaping into an alternative approach.

I think it is easier for me to break through as I have had some
of those highly strange events and remember what it felt like. I
can't imagine someone who has never had highly strange events in
their life trying to come to some conclusion. As I have stated
before, approaching this phenomena takes, at least, a background
reading in many different fields of human biology, neurology,
sociology and theology.


Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast



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