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Re: Seals... A Part Of Animal Mutilations?

From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:55:55 -0500
Archived: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 08:25:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Seals... A Part Of Animal Mutilations?

>From: Jim Deardorff<deardorj.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 13:15:30 -0800
>Subject: Re: Seals... A Part Of Animal Mutilations?

>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 18:05:45 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Seals... A Part Of Animal Mutilations?

>>>From: Jim Deardorff<deardorj.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2011 09:07:03 -0800
>>>Subject: Seals... A Part Of Animal Mutilations?

>>>Hello List,

>>>In addition to the huge numbers of bird and fish die-offs that
>>>have occurred worldwide and all within the past few months,
>>>there are the seal deaths: E.g., see:


>>>These fit well within the category of UFO animal mutilations.
>>>They have all, some 40 or 50 of them, been found mutilated in a
>>>nearly identical manner along an east coast of England.

>>>Many conceivable causes have been mentioned, the least
>>>incredible being that the seals are strangely attracted to some
>>>nearby, large, encased ship propellor. But that didn't make
>>>sense either, as any animal victims would be chewed to pieces by

>>It would probably depend on the speed of the propeller. As well
>>as ship propellers, there are now turbines to generate power
>>from tides. See for instance:



>>An example of the technology can be seen at:


>>The spec sheet for the latter says the rotor rotational speed is
>>21 rpm, with a rotor tip speed of 3.67 m/sec. That's still quite
>>fast, but maybe a seal could be drawn through such a thing
>>relatively intact at that rate. It would be pushed through with
>>the current, and a sharp edge on the rotor or on an exit point
>>might possibly cut a spiral as it went through.

>>These generator installations are relatively recent, as are the
>>mutilated seals. They are installed near coastlines, and that is
>>where seals would congregate as well.

>>To connect this to the horse and cattle mutilations on land,
>>there would have to be organs excised from the seals. No one has
>>mentioned that yet, to my knowledge.

>Tidal generators were considered but ruled out - none in the
>vicinity. The two URLs you listed were for ones in Ireland and
>the Bay of Fundy. The large screws of floating platforms were
>also considered and ruled out - none anywhere around at the time
>some of the earlier seal mutilations occurred.

Sorry, I was not clear on exactly where the mutilated seals were
found so I merely included the above links as examples of that

I believe some of the mutilated seals were found off Scotland.
Wave and tidal power generators are under development there.








I would take the word of an official with a grain of salt when
it comes to admitting that a power generating station, seen to
be good for society and becoming economically important, might
be responsible. Fear of PETA might inspire caution.

>The similarity in mutilation cuts needs to be taken into
>account. What are the odds that some 40 seals would be sucked
>into some sort of unknown propellor in a duct head first, and
>never have the head itself damaged? If the odds are one in two
>for any particular seal, then the overall probability is only 1
>in 2 to the 40th power.

>The shark hypothesis is just as improbable for the same reason,
>and even more so judging from the opinions of scientists at the
>Sea Mammal Research Unit at the University of St. Andrews in

I would agree that sharks would be expected to cause random
damage, but maybe not the ducted propeller. The head of a seal
is quite a bit smaller than the rest of the body. If the animal
were guided through the duct by it's "shoulders" and encountered
the sharp object as it was leaving, the head might always stay
clear of the sharp object.


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