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Re: Psychic Rendlesham

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:41:40 -0400
Archived: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:08:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Psychic Rendlesham


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:33:27 -0600
>Subject: Re: Psychic Rendlesham

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 15:00:26 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Psychic Rendlesham

>>>From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>>Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:39:32 +0000
>>>Subject: Psychic Rendlesham

>>>If you thought that the 'binary message' was as low as the sorry
>>>saga which is Rendlesham could get, it appears now that a group
>>>of psychics plus the ubiquitous Nick Pope are getting in on the
>>>act according to this promotional trailer:

>>>And someone claimed that ufology is not a religion?

>>Don't know about any binary connection. It seems to me to be as
>>out there but perhaps less absurd than Ian Ridpath's lighthouse
>>theory.

>>I find more religious connotation in fairies and angels. What's
>>your take on that premise? When one gets a degree, for example,
>>in Folklore Studies would that put them on a par with biblical
>>studies? Are they related; a branch thereof?

>Don,

>These questions are rather mangled, I'm afraid. I encourage you
>to read a book on folklore. Or, specifically, you could read my
>chapter on fairy experience in my own book, Hidden Realms.

>Folklore is not tied in particular to religion, except to the
>degree that, in common with all human activity (e.g., sex,
>sports, the entertainment industry, your neighbors' doings,
>work, politics) - you name it - religion generates a body of
>evolving, protean oral lore, rumor, and speculation. Which means
>only that, like everything else, religious belief, doctrine, and
>the like are processed in normal, recognizable human ways by
>non-elites. Biblical scholarship at an academic level is neither
>folklore nor folkloristics, but a discipline that fuses
>linguistics, history, philosophy, and theology.

>Nor, on a whole other level, are the fairies of tradition tied
>to religion in any meaningful sense. In the meaningless sense,
>if one ties _all_ anomalous, supernatural, or non-consensus
>reality experience to "religion", then the term essentially
>means whatever you want it to mean, in other words not much the
>rest of us need worry about.

>It is true that the less secular ordinary folk of other eras
>sometimes struggled to understand fairies and other mysteries,
>natural and supernatural - just as they struggled to understand
>everything else in their environment - through a biblical
>filter. Mostly, they came to the nonscriptural conclusion that
>fairies exist on some level between the divine and the human.
>Mostly, though, they just feared them, viewing them as one more
>menace in an already dangerous world.

>_Non_traditional fairies - those that figure in Spiritualism or
>New Age mysticism - are figures that one can call religiously
>generated inasmuch as they've been drafted into modernist
>theological frameworks. But since you're talking about folklore,
>I assume you mean the fairies of tradition, where fairies had as
>much, or as little, religious significance as giants, monsters,
>and ghosts.


You just made my point for me Jerry. My blanket dismissal of the
folklore surrounding fairys and angels is exactly what Joe did
when he claimed a blanket religious connotation associated with
the interest shown in the Rendlesham case. I could have just as
easily thrown in ghosts or swan mays.


Don Ledger



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