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Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

From: Emma Woods <e.woods33.nul>
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:27:12 -0800 (PST)
Archived: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:42:49 -0500
Subject: Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point


>From: David Cherniack <davidc.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 16:56:11 -0500
>Subject: Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

>>From: Emma Woods <e.woods33.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 08:43:07 -0800 (PST)
>>Subject: Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

>>>From: David Cherniack <davidc.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:46:57 -0500
>>>Subject: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

>>>I'll confine myself to the specific ethics issue that
>>>seems to be at the crux of 'Emma Woods' allegations.

>>>She alleges that without her prior knowledge David
>>>Jacobs gave her post-hypnotic suggestions that she
>>>suffered from MPD in an attempt to throw hostile
>>>alien hybrids off his track.

>>If Dr. Jacobs had, in fact, asked my permission to
>>implant hypnotic suggestions in my mind that I had
>>MPD (which he did not), it would still have been
>>reprehensible conduct by him as a researcher. Even
>>if I had given him permission to do such thing to me
>>(which I did not), it would not in any way alter the fact
>>that it was a gross violation of researcher ethics.

>It seems to me that if Jacobs did this under hypnosis
>without any prior discussion or knowledge on your part,
>as you clearly stated to me and I assume others, in a
>mass e-mail, then it would clearly be egregious ethical
>behaviour. If, on the other hand, it was discussed ahead
>of time, as he submits, then I'd say that your claim of
>"gross violation of researcher ethics" would be rather
>weak, especially so by your false claim that that you did
>not know in advance. If the tape does indeed show a
>conversation with intent prior to the beginning of hypnosis
>then that may well be why you don't wish to release the
>full tape, not any contemplated legal action.

Dr. Jacobs did not at any stage ask my permission to implant
hypnotic suggestions in my mind that I had Multiple Personality
Disorder.

In my previous response to you I told you that I had released
the full recording, with just Elizabeth's name redacted, to Gary
Haden, and I provided you with a link to a post that he wrote in
which he confirmed this.

http://tinyurl.com/45nc4pn

Gary Haden has now published a second post about this in which
he again confirms that he has heard the full tape and he
addresses the issue of consent.

http://tinyurl.com/4v6qe3g

As in my previous response, I can only reiterate that even if I
had given Dr. Jacobs permission to implant hypnotic suggestions
in my mind that I had MPD (which I did not), that it would still
have constituted it was a gross violation of researcher ethics.

Dr. Jacobs uses ambiguous language in his defamatory statement
about me on his website to falsely imply that he obtained my
permission to do that to me, by saying, "I explained my thinking
to her before I acted." However, apart from the fact that he is
deliberately misleading people, it is a red herring. Nothing can
excuse a researcher doing such a psychologically abusive thing
to a research subject, no matter what the circumstances.



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