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Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 17:22:25 -0600
Archived: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:17:14 -0500
Subject: Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

>From: Gene Steinberg <gene.nul>
>To: post.nul: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:44:40 -0700
>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:44:40 -0700
>Subject: Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

>>From: Alfred Lehmberg <alienview.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:25:23 -0600
>>Subject: Re: Woods/Jacobs - A Salient But Missing Point

>>Stuff and _flaccid_ nonsense, Sir. Your pompous proclamation
>>only makes a _lesser_ 'such and so'.

>Your comment doesn't alter the accuracy of my statements about
>audio editing.

Nor does it detract from the _irrelevancy_ of same, Mr.
Steinberg! Jacobs admits to _everything_. Where the admission is
not forthcoming, he's on tape self-admitted.

>And, yes, I can claim to be knowledgeable on the
>subject, since I have done both analog and digital audio editing
>for several decades, and I did learn a thing or two along the

More preening irrelevancy Sir, and embarrassing for that. Your
expertise, only ever brought up by you, is not _remotely_

>>Moreover, all of your above is stupefyingly immaterial given
>>that the core issue is _plain_ and admitted.

>>The core issue, Mr. Steinberg, is that a woman with every
>>expectation of professional behavior and in a state of extremely
>>high suggestibility... was knowingly, gleefully, and
>>_admittedly_ thrown under a bus of wild-card psychological
>>pathology at the convenience of he whom you so stridently

>The real core issue is that there are two sides to every story,
>often more, and most of the information out there covers one

Facile. Simplistic. Superficial, Mr. Steinberg. Both sides have
explicated for years: Woods in factual audits and largely
uncontested recorded data sets, and Jacobs, less effectively, in
angry proclamations regarding his non-expert speculations of
Woods "mental illness", supported, it is said, by a host of
mental health professionals... all entirely on board, mind you,
with hypnotic suggestions to Woods that Woods had a _severe_
psychological pathology and that she required professional care.
Excuse me?! C'mon!

How can you let this slide as "He said, she said"?

Additionally, I submit that Jacobs has had ample opportunity to
cover his 'side', such that it is, in the last year _anyway_,
and, moreover, has a host of celebrants, such as yourself, to
cover a... let's call it a "weak procedural backfield" littered
with inappropriate, unprofessional, and unsettling
proclivities... to be kind.

>Jacobs says he is working on a greatly expanded defense of
>his position, and I await its release before coming to any final
>decision about this.

I eagerly anticipate one that is 'backward compatible' with the
proclivities alluded to above.

>More to the point, stop making up stories about me.

First? You must stop making up stories about me making up
stories about you! You are defined by your entirely one-sided
activities and expressions, Mr. Steinberg. Don't count on me to
cover or make excuses for _your_ action.

>is no "student" defense of Jacobs on my part, or any other

_Strident_, Mr. Steinberg, strident.

Too, we must agree to disagree, it seems, as the more
_plausible_ perception is the you have provided a defacto
defense historically, ongoingly, and currently. You provide
defense as it pertains to soft-ball questioning on your pod
cast. You provide defense in the canted operation of your
message board. You are all defense brushing off valid concerns
regarding psychological abuse as, say, 'two sides to every
story'... I _sincerely_ hope there are no women living in your
stair-well regularly beat up by their husbands.

>I have made it clear that I do not agree with his
>conclusions about hybrid aliens, the value of hypnotic
>regression (by phone or otherwise) to recover lost
>memories, and I also believe Jacobs should have brought

None of this is germane, remotely relevant, or in any way
pertinent, Mr. Steinberg. Your observations are noted as
tepid 20/20 hindsight, at best. At worst, what? We can go there
if you want.

>a mental health therapist on board when he first started
>working with 'Woods', a woman who is clearly very, very troubled.

You are basing your estimation of "troubled", on _what_ exactly,
Mr. Steinberg? Jacobs' diagnosis as supported by a team of un-
named mental health experts entirely... OK... with in-expert
hypnotists hypnotically suggesting dangerous pathologies to
persons in their charge? Or maybe you have some clinical
experience of your own. Stay in a Holiday Inn recently?

>>All of _that_ is concurrent, subsequent and antecedent to, IMO
>>and in the opinion of significant others, other rapes, assaults.
>>and malfeasant infidelities.

>>Clearer, Sir, is that your credulity stunning and inexplicable
>>denial is indicative of the place where you have _your_ head,

>And so another rant from Lehmberg without substance and hardly a
>shred of accuracy.

Yeah - uh-huh... and so another dodge from Steinberg ironically
sans a similar substance but _fraught_ with all manner of wholly
irrelevant accuracies... this is going on a little longer than
you'd gotten used to at the Paracast board, eh?

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