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Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 11:04:52 +0100
Archived: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 08:21:01 -0500
Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

>From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 14:57:39 -0000
>Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:17:07 +0100
>>Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

>>>From: Carol Rainey <csrainey2.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:23:09 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand


>>>I don't have the time to run through a series of reports and
>>>offering an opinion on them, especially when I will have little
>>>knowledge and even less interest in many of them.

>>If his answer is not contemptous, at least it shows a complete
>>lack of respect to decades of good research on UFOs.

>>For instance, for the very dedicated team which inquired during
>>many years about the Minot case. And the witnesses.

>Hi Gildas

>I believe I've expressed the opinion before on this List that
>Minot AFB 1968 is a fascinating and presently unexplained case.

>I have had some small involvement with aspects of the (ongoing)
>research project you refer to in recent years. But I would
>describe the witness evidence as sometimes ambiguous, the
>documentation as incomplete and flawed, crucial aspects of its
>reconstruction as uncertain, and the anwer to the very complex
>question "What happened?" as an ultimately inconclusive one.

>For clarity can you point to one aspect of this group of
>incidents and explain why it is exceptionally strong evidence
>for something that could not be explained by unrecognised
>natural phenomena of some type? So that we can have a focused
>discussion about it?

There is plenty of information available on that extraordinary

For instance in these books:

- Scientific Ufology by Kevin Randle (1999), pages 60 to 70;

- UFOs and Nukes by Robert Hastings (2010) chapter 15.

Hastings refers to the report of the main researchers, Thomas
Tullien and James Klotz, "The Minot UFO Incident Report" I am
not sure if it is published already, but they have an articleon
their web site:


See also:


One of the main witnesses, the copilot of the B-52, Bradford
Runyon, was interviewed in the 2005 ABC program UFOs. Seing is

Gildas Bourdais

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