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Re: VernonClark & Sims

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 20:34:05 +0000
Archived: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:37:15 -0500
Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:31:13 -0500
>To: ufo-updates-list.nul
>From: post.nul
>Subject: UFO UpDate: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 12:13:33 +0100
>Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 19:24:06 +0000
>>Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:45:57 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>>>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
>>>>To: post.nul
>>>>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:03:48 EST
>>>>Subject: VernonClark & Sims [was: Budd Hopkins]


>>>>Gildas, List, All -

>>>>Just curious... How was Dr. VernonClark's career ruined after
>>>>his public announcement of the isotopic analysis... which he
>>>>told me, within days of his appearance in Roswell had been
>>>>overblown and taken out of context... I see that Sims is now
>>>>saying that the material he analyzed was of terrestrial origin.


>>>I talked at length about that, in 2003, with Dr Roger Leir, who
>>>was involved in that study, and knew Dr VernonClark.

>>>Leir told me that he was forced to quit his post at the UCLA at
>>>San Diego, and had a hard time finding another job.

>>>If I remember well, his marriage was broken too, after that.
>>>Skeptics will as usual put in doubt this information, but I
>>>don't care.

>>>Now, that does not prove anything about the real nature of that
>>>fragment, of course

>>I must correct a couple of things before they become part of the

>>UCLA means the University of California - Los Angeles. The San
>>Diego campus of UC is referred to as UCSD. Thanks for your

>>I worked within the UC system during the time of the Sims
>>debate, and was able to contact VernonClark via the UC e-mail

>>Because I worked across the hall from the electron microscope
>>and knew the UCLA lab head tech, I could ask Clark questions
>>about his testing methods.

>>If I am remembering the facts correctly, it turned out that
>>Clark was not a doctor at all, but the newest hired tech in the
>>San Diego lab. I believe his institution (UCSD) thought he had
>>misused his position and their equipment.


>Thank you for correcting me on UCLA and UCSD.

>Similarly, please use his complete name: VernonClark, not Clark.

>Your remarks don't tell anything about his findings, the really
>interesting, and 'hot' question.

Well, Gildas, I have no idea who you are quoting when you
want to correct the guy's name. I was in direct contact with
him and knew him as Russell Vernon Clark. I think you got
your information from Dr. Roger Leir who didn't get the guy's
name straight.

As far as the test results? There were none. Russell couldn't
conclude anything for certain.

I had, at my elbow our electronmicroscopic tech prompting
questions. My friend and hall mate just laughed upon hearing
Russell's responses.

Gosh, I hope this ends the myth of conclusive results from any
testing done by Russell. Time to separate the myth from the
facts. Especially, the part about Russell being a doctor.


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