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Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:46:11 -0400
Archived: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:34:44 -0500
Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand


>From: Roy Hale <roy.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 13:26:02 -0000
>Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

>>From: John Rimmer <johnrimmer.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:12:48 +0000 (GMT)
>>Subject: Re: McGonagle's Ufological Stand

><snip>

>>Too many doubtful reports worldwide over many decades makes the
>>UFO phenomena someting that the believers have not been able to
>>prove despite much progress and help via many media outlets in
>>modern society.

>Do please watch this clip and think how far UK skeptics have
>come to arrive at such answers on UFOs when you arrive at 4.22
>in the clip onwards:

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLRS1e0wxF4

>Oh and this great piece from 29.18 onwards I think Jenny tells
>the camera that 95% of the UFO cases she has investigated are
>all explainable, but the other 5% is somehow not mentioned in
>the film? What a great opportunity she had to tell the camera
>what the other 5% may have been!

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNR2M0eYsEQ

>"We must educate the British about UFOs in anyway possible!"

>http://tinyurl.com/5sbrfx2

>http://tinyurl.com/5sfudaj

>http://tinyurl.com/6ev2ynb

>Roy

So the Bobby went into an altered state of consciousness?

What did he walk around in a trance later?

Andy Roberts sets the tone.

When in doubt come up with the bogus psychological angle. Enter
the realm of the witchdoctors. Make the case a metal case.

Attack/trash the witness. Mind you this doesn't stop the likes
of Andy Roberts and David Clarke from pumping out UFO books. But
the documentary people fall happily into this tripe every time
as they attempt to 'balance' out the statements by the witnesses
- who apparently are mental cases including the police - with a
'sober' explanation  which is usually unresearched (enter
Roberts) and in this case ridiculous and probably should have
been grounds for libel.

But this is the kind of drivel that Rimmer and McGonagle buy
into. Safe ground. McGonagle apparently has done a 180 having
been a 'true believer' (whatever that is) himself (according to
one of the aviary over there who related this info to me after
the Condign Report was released) before McGonagle fell in with
'bad':) company.

But back to the Bobby in the 'altered state'...

One must presume then that every time this Bobby or any other
cop comes into contact with something disturbing during the
course of their duties they go into an altered state.

When does this occur? Where is the cut-off point? Is it after
the ticketing of a speeder but before the lifting the body of a
6 year old's body from the ocean shore after immersion of 4
days; or the brutal slaying or some prostitute who has been
hacked to pieces. That's just a couple of samples out of
hundreds of terrible scenes that the police live with day in and
day out but then 'expurt' Roberts comes along and tells the
police they went into an altered state. What rubbish and what
cheek. What piety. You have to have a pretty big ego to pump
that bullshit out; and belive it.

Frankly, the 95% explainable  number is a cop-out but it's not
only Jenny Randle that has bought into that myth.


Don Ledger


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