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Re: VernonClark & Sims

From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:00:07 +0100
Archived: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:17:12 -0500
Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>From: Steven Kaeser <steve.nul>
>To: <post.nul>,
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 09:32:44 -0500
>Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:45:57 +0100
>>Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:03:48 EST
>>>Subject: VernonClark & Sims [was: Budd Hopkins]


>>>Just curious... How was Dr. VernonClark's career ruined after his
>>>public announcement of the isotopic analysis... which he told me,
>>>within days of his appearance in Roswell had been overblown and
>>>taken out of context... I see that Sims is now saying that the
>>>material he analyzed was of terrestrial origin.


>>I talked at length about that, in 2003, with Dr Roger Leir, who
>>was involved in >that study, and knew Dr VernonClark.

>>Leir told me that he was forced to quit his post at the UCLA at
>>San Diego, and >had a hard time finding another job.

>>If I remember well, his marriage was broken too, after that.
>>Skeptics will as usual put in doubt this information, but I
>>don't care.

>>Now, that does not prove anything about the real nature of that
>>fragment, of >course

>His presentation at Roswell was one of the few that I attended
>in 1997, and there was a lot of discussion going on behind the
>scenes regarding how this entire thing was being presented as
>absolute proof of alien manufactured material.

>Dr. Clark was rushed onto the stage to tell his tale and then
>whisked out a back door to a car that was waiting for him to
>take him to the airport. Reporters and others were told to wait
>at the front of the building while he was being spirited away,
>which told me how much the information was worth.

>If they'd found something substantial that they could support
>with evidence, why run and hide after you provide an outline.
>The group in the audience was a veritable who's who of ufology,
>and they were left shaking their heads for the most part.

>That wasn't ufology's finest hour, and IMO you probably don't
>want to start a[nother] long conversation on Dr. Leir and his


You are just repeating here critiques expressed so many times,
and you don't seem interested at all by the findings of Dr

You are even repeating he mistake on his name which led to that
stupid accusation in the press that he was not at the UCLA in
San Diego, and therefore was a liar. The jounalist who launched
that accusation had asked for a Dr Clark, but he was listed as
Dr Russell VernonClark! This error of yours tells me a lot about
your low level of information on that case. It also tells me
that I don't wish to discuss Dr Leir's operations with you. I am
getting sick with that sort of debate.

Gidas Bourdais

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