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Re: VernonClark & Sims

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:11:37 EST
Archived: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 07:14:34 -0500
Subject: Re:  VernonClark & Sims

>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:45:57 +0100
>Subject: Re: VernonClark & Sims

>>From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 17:03:48 EST
>>Subject: VernonClark & Sims [was: Budd Hopkins]

>>>From: Gildas Bourdais <bourdais.gildas.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 11:11:31 +0100
>>>Subject: Re: Budd Hopkins


>>>Another example: Dr VernonClark has his career ruined after
>>>making public his isotopic analysis of an alleged UFO debris.
>>>Pathetic, too? Rather, a dangerous game, it seems to me.

>>>Now, I would like to see a little better where you stand in
>>>ufology. May I ask a not so simple question, to you and John
>>>Rimmer: are you total skeptics, or not, on the reality UFOs?
>>>Would you give your global viewpoints about them?

>>Gildas, List, All -

>>Just curious... How was Dr. VernonClark's career ruined after
>>his public announcement of the isotopic analysis... which he
>>told me, within days of his appearance in Roswell had been
>>overblown and taken out of context... I see that Sims is now
>>saying that the material he analyzed was of terrestrial origin.


>I talked at length about that, in 2003, with Dr Roger Leir, who
>was involved in that study, and knew Dr VernonClark.

>Leir told me that he was forced to quit his post at the UCLA at
>San Diego, and had a hard time finding another job.

>If I remember well, his marriage was broken too, after that.
>Skeptics will as usual put in doubt this information, but I
>don't care.

>Now, that does not prove anything about the real nature of that
>fragment, of course

Gildas, List, All -

Sorry, but I don't see a causal relation here. Was he forced out
because of his rather premature remarks about the fragment, or
were there other reasons? I do know that he didn't hold a
teaching post and when I last talked to him he had no concerns
about his position at the university.

And is the break-up of his marriage relevant here? Did that have
something to do with his statements in Roswell or were there
other, more terrestrially grounded reasons?

The only facts I see here are that he made an announcement in
Roswell that was premature and not supported by others in the
scientific community. I have no doubt that he was used because
of his university connection. But I don't know why he left the
university and if it really had anything to do with his

I guess you can throw me into the skeptics camp on this because
I need something more than what Leir provided about him.



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