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Re: Refuting The Hopkins Jacobs Mack Synthesis

From: Kevin Randle <KRandle993.nul>
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 14:38:23 EST
Archived: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 16:12:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Refuting The Hopkins Jacobs Mack Synthesis


>From: Tyler Kokjohn <TKOKJO.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:37:08 -0700
>Subject: Re: Refuting The Hopkins Jacobs Mack Synthesis

>>From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 19:13:08 -0500
>>Subject: Refuting The Hopkins Jacobs Mack Synthesis

>Mr. Gelinas -

>Thank you so much for this well-researched and magnificently
>thought provoking response. I hope it stimulates a productive
>conversation.

>http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m12-007.shtml

>Like you, I note that many underlying explanatory rationales for
>alien abductions seem intrinsically weak and readily undermined.
>But even sound, documented arguments do not automatically carry
>the day. One problem is that skeptics are in a bad position
>(logically) because it can be so challenging to prove a negative
>assertion in a simple, rigorous sense. Although you may
>demonstrate they are unlikely, lacking hard evidence it can be
>virtually impossible to completely falsify some hypotheses.

>Scientific intuition tells me the claims of Dr. David Jacobs and
>Mr. Budd Hopkins in particular have grown far beyond anything
>the existing objective evidence supports. However, that remains
>nothing more than my personal opinion and the debate could
>continue forever. But, there may be a way out of this dilemma.

>A particular class of abductee, those allegedly impregnated or
>used as incubators for human-alien hybrid entities, offers a
>potentially rich source of hard genetic evidence.

>During pregnancy, DNA and cells from the unborn child become
>incorporated into the mother. Remarkably, the fetal cells may
>persist in the mother for decades after the pregnancy ends
>(Science 296:2169-2172, 21 June 2002).

Hello List, All -

I have been reticent to join the discussion before now, but
thought that we should explore this idea. Back in the 90s, Dr.
Richard Neal, a medical doctor, explored this aspect of
abduction, publishing his results in the American UFO magazine.
We, Russ Estes, Bill Cone and I, in The Abduction Enigma,
reported on Neal's investigation and his results.

Neal wrote, "Many researchers have claimed that they have
several cases of Missing Embryo/Fetus Syndrome (ME/FS) in their
files. Yet during my research into this phenomenon over the past
three years, all have failed to produce one verified case. Why?"

Neal speculated that the syndrome might be the result of
hysteria that is associated with the abduction phenomenon. He
also suggested that it might be related to the post-traumatic
experience.

Neal wrote that the missing fetus syndrome involved female
abductees who alleged a pregnancy between 6 weeks to 12 weeks.
The women claimed that the child, usually the result of some
primitive form of genetic or biological experimentation, had
disappeared due to alien intervention. In other words, alien
abductors had taken the child.

In the article, Neal wrote:

"These individuals are taken into what appears to be some type
of examination room in which they are placed on a table.
Abductees report they are usually administered some form of
anesthesia, whether through the touching of an instrument to the
head, alien hands applied to the temporal area, then
telepathically told to relax and that it would not hurt, or are
given some form of liquid for oral intake, ostensibly to
alleviate apprehension."

In many of the cases, according to Neal, they also reported some
kind of "quasi-gynecological" exam. And, as many abductees have
claimed, these women report that a long needle was pushed into
the belly. Neal reported that much of this sounds like common
medical procedures including "a mini-laparoscopy in which there
may be extraction of ova from the ovary or a procedure known as
Gamete Intra-Fallopian Transfer (GIFT)."

Neal surveyed the work of others including Dr. Thomas "Eddie"
Bullard, a folklorist, and Dr. Leo Sprinkle who was one of the
earliest of the abduction researchers. Both reported that they
had nothing like the missing fetus syndrome in their files.
Bullard did comment, "A preoccupation with reproduction is a
common theme from the earliest abductions onward, and a few of
the stories describe rape, sexual activity, and events that
might be described as artificial inseminations or tampering with
a pregnancy already underway, but I noticed nothing in the
literature (up to 1986 or there abouts) comparable to the
missing embryo motif."

Sprinkle wrote, "...I have no medical information... In a few
instances, women wrote to me about strange 'dreams' of sexual
activity with aliens, then describing pregnancies that resulted
in birth of babies with 'big eyes' and great psychic abilities."

Neal pointed out that no photographs of these children have been
presented. Nor any evidence that they have an increased psychic
capability. Letters are not proof of the claims.

The difference, however, seems to be Dr. Jean Moody. She wrote
in Vol.6, No. 4 issue of UFO, that "Around nine percent of women
with alien contact report medically confirmed pregnancies which
disappear, usually in the fourth month. There is no evidence of
miscarriage, they just were not pregnant any longer."

Moody said they were medically confirmed, which is in conflict
with what Neal reported in the same issue. Neal wrote that each
time he heard of a medically confirmed report, his insistence on
the documentation failed to produce results. In Neal's
experience, as a medical doctor, he had found no persuasive
evidence of the  missing fetus syndrome. Moody, however, did
present one case. Claire, according to Moody, came to her "with
the bits and pieces of such a story. She was unaware that she
was pregnant, or perhaps she wasn't yet, when an alien being
came into her bedroom. Several sessions of hypnotic regression
were used to clarify her memories."

Moody related that she has two methods of obtaining data under
hypnosis. One is to ask questions of the subject and the other
is to say nothing once the "trigger" event has been mentioned.
Interestingly, Moody referred to the first method as "the
leading question method."

While under the influence of hypnosis, Claire related the trauma
of an alien invasion of her room. In the mid-1970s, she was in
her bedroom with her young son, when a light came toward her and
seemed to force her back. She described, with the proper
emotion, an eye that she couldn't get away from. She could see a
silver needle and then that she could feel hands inside her.

Under hypnosis, she recalled that she had been told she would
have a boy child and that he would have blue eyes and be a
mighty warrior. She was told that she would be given the name
for the boy and that she would be given instructions on how to
raise him.

Claire also described being on a ship where she could see lots
of lights and panels. She said that she was sick to her stomach
and nude as she was prodded and probed. At one point she said,
"Such pain in my uterus... I don't like them being inside of
me."

Moody gathered more data from Claire and even talked to the son
who had been in the room during the abduction. He was not
present during the regression, but did claim to remember the
night that Claire had described in such horrifying detail.

Other evidence for the case was a scar on Claire's arm. She said
that it happened on the night of the visitation and that the
tissue was biopsied. There was no results of that provided.

Moody also reported that Claire said that she had had two
miscarriages and one missing pregnancy of a four-month-old
fetus. According to Moody, this happened after she had a tubal
ligation. Her doctors were incredulous when reminded of her
operation. No medical evidence of the pregnancies or
miscarriages was presented.

Moody writes in the conclusion to her article in UFO, "By
selectively ignoring many pieces of the puzzle, the protesting
reader can conclude there was no craft, no aliens, just a
strange rapist in Claire's bedroom while her husband was away.
By ignoring her vivid emotional scars, one could conclude it was
a normal pregnancy, and the son is just 'different.'... But if
you put all the pieces into the picture, we have one more case
of alien forces reaching down into the most intimate aspects of
human life."

The problem is that no evidence, beyond the emotional "scars" of
Claire has been presented. Hypnotic regression was used to
retrieve the memories and no corroboration, beyond a son
remembering lights, has been offered. The precise medical
documentation that would help "the protesting reader" understand
and believe has been neglected.

There might be a partial explanation for why there is no medical
evidence to confirm these stories of disappearing pregnancies.
David Jacobs, in The Threat, described what he termed
"Extrauterine Gestation Units" which are some form of implanted
device for carrying an alien hybrid child. He reported on a
number of women who have experienced these devices, suggested
that one had been seen on an ultrasound, but that it was not
recovered. The aliens, through some unknown ability, are able to
monitor the women, recovering the device before it can be
removed for analysis.

Jacobs made it clear that these extrauterine gestation devices
are not connected to the hosts' bodies. In a normal, human
pregnancy, the mother is connected to the fetus through the
placenta. The mother shares nutrients with the growing baby.
But, according to Jacobs, these extrauterine gestation devices
are a separate system that is implanted in the women.

If they are not connected to the women, if there is no
circulation of blood between the host and the device, then what
purpose does it serve? Jacobs suggests that the fetus, when
removed from the device is then brought to term in class tubes
filled with liquid. The hybrid children are "decanted" much in
the same way as the children in Brave New World. At least this
is the way some of his abductees recall it under hypnosis.

So why isn't there more physical evidence? In all the
investigations that have been conducted, in all the reports that
have been made, there has never been the documentation to prove
that something had, in fact, happened. Neal wrote about the
difficulties in investigation and research on missing fetus
syndrome. During his research, he noted four considerations that
inhibited investigation.

First, many of the abductees feared consulting with a private
doctor. The women were afraid that if they requested the release
of their records, and their doctor learned the reason, the
doctor might believe the patient to be unstable.

Second, many of the women were unwilling to release such private
information to abduction researchers. Some were afraid of
humiliation, and rightly so. Too often the UFO community has
demonstrated that is not to be trusted with sensitive or private
information. This fear often results in a failure to provide
documentation needed to corroborate the testimony.

Third, according to Neal, many of the abductees only have a
vague memory of the abduction and have real concerns that the
pregnancy might be normal in origin. In other words, it was the
husband, boyfriend, or mate who was involved in the
contraception and not alien visitors.

And finally, there is fabrication. Although Neal wrote that the
majority of the alleged female abductees would not lie about the
event, there may be some who were seeking notoriety for self-
gratification. The production of the proper documentation, in
these cases, would be extremely difficult since it is all a
hoax.

Neal provided a list of medical reasons why a woman who is not
pregnant might believe she was. Many of these conditions produce
symptoms that mimic pregnancy. In some cases, tests suggested
the woman was pregnant when she was not. Neal advocated the
proper medical documentation in these cases. Some would be
explained by medical science as not involving alien abduction
and intervention but some might provide the very corroboration
that the abduction researchers require.

It should also be noted that many of the women who have reported
these false pregnancies, or who Jacobs believed had been
implanted with his extrauterine gestation devices were post
menopausal women, women who had had hysterectomies, or who were,
for whatever reason, unable to bear children. The psychological
literature is full of reports on why women who cannot conceive
believe that they have, through some miracle, become pregnant.
Such a belief fulfills a real psychological need in these women.

In the second part of an article appearing in the January 1992
issue of UFO, Neal asked, "Are [missing fetus] cases on file?"
He answered his own question, writing, "Why do some of our top
researchers say they have numerous cases in their files related
to the ME/FS motif, yet fail to produce anything that can be
investigated or documented when questioned thoroughly?"

He also noted, "As far as researchers go, we have no data for
medical/ scientific review, due to failure of compliance of
female abductees as well as the investigators' failure to submit
cases to those of us interested in this bizarre aspect of the
abductee phenomenon."

To document ME/FS, Neal recommended proper medical records. The
information he thought important included an established date of
missed menses, a positive pregnancy test in the doctor's office,
confirmation of the pregnancy by a doctor, the alleged date of
the abduction, alleged date of the missing pregnancy,
documentation by a doctor of the missing pregnancy or
complication of the pregnancy, Lab, X-ray, ultrasound scan,
surgical procedures or pathology reports, and finally, hypnotic
regression tapes of the alleged sexual encounter or quasi-
gynecological examination. In other words, he required the type
of evidence that would be accepted by medical authorities.

It should be noted, however, that Jacobs' extrauterine gestation
device would defeat most of the tests recommended by Neal.
Because, according to Jacobs, the device has nothing to do with
the host's body, is not connected to it, and is merely
"warehoused" in the women, many of the medical tests would be
negative. The X-rays, ultrasounds, and recovery through surgical
procedures would, of course, provide the proper scientific
evidence. To date that simply hasn't happened for a variety of
less than persuasive reasons.

Neal pointed out that without this documentation and until the
medical records can be produced for proper peer review, "the
ME/FS will remain as obscure and vague in the future as it is
today. Merely hear-say cases of alleged female abductees having
missed pregnancies will forever remain buried in the annals of
ufology."

This was the state of this sort of research more than a decade
and a half ago and I see nothing to suggest that this has
changed. The documentation has not been offered, there has been
no real peer review by medical practitioners, and no one has
been able to prove that such cases exist. Instead we are given
the same sort of anecdotal information that we have always been
given and questions are dodged by claiming that in all of the
research done some sort of consistency has been established.

But here we are, 15 years later, and we hear that no one has
bothered to study this aspect. Dr. Neal did before his death and
I have seen nothing to suggest his conclusions have been
invalidated by evidence... just the claims of evidence which
isn't quite the same thing.

KRandle



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