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Re: Group Films 'Trans-Dimensional Contact'

From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 18:40:48 -0000
Archived: Sun, 13 Feb 2011 07:02:32 -0500
Subject: Re: Group Films 'Trans-Dimensional Contact'


>From: William Treurniet  wtreurniet.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 11:40:23 -0500
>Subject: Re: Group Films 'Trans-Dimensional Contact'


>>From: John Rimmer<johnrimmer.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:22:40 +0000 (GMT)
>>Subject: Re: Group Films 'Trans-Dimensional Contact'

>>>From: Dave Haith<visions1.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates<post.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:13:46 -0000
>>>Subject: Group Films 'Trans-Dimensional Contact'

>>>But when in the UK village of Scole, a couple of Professors and
>>>many other scientists, investigate for two years, witness the
>>>events and can find no evidence of hoaxing then surely this
>>>documentary must be worth a viewing?

>>For an alternative view of the Scole experiments, see here:

>>http://magonia.haaan.com/2009/scole/

>I managed to see the video before it was password protected and,
>because most people here have not seen it, it is perhaps unfair
>to talk about the contents. But since the Scole experiment was
>dissed in the above link, I thought I would put in my two cents.

>Accounts of these sessions, written or video, are biased by the
>authors' preconceptions. But unless the video was an out-and-out
>fraud, there were a few impressive happenings. For example,
>there is one scene where a round table levitates, tips 90
>degrees, and spins rapidly, all while no one is standing near
>it. Sure, someone might be able to make this happen using purely
>mechanical means. Nowadays, anything seen in the media can be
>faked. Even the results of scientific experiments can be hoaxed,
>and some have been.

William, you are perfectly correct in your description of this
event based on the testimonies of several witnesses but the
spinning sequence in this film was simulated - there was a
caption saying so.

So too was another segment which showed one of the professors
putting his hand through a lighted crystal on a table.

I gather from Robin Foy, the Scole leader, that others in the
group also performed this amazing feat - based, we're told, on
the fact that the 'spirit team' dematerialised the crystal.

I have been in touch with Robin who has given me permission to
post here his account of that particular event.

Robin writes:

-----

"Of all the wonderful phenomena that professors David Fontana
and Arthur Ellison; together with eminent journalist and
egronomist Monty Keen witnessed at Scole and other locations,
the one piece of phenomena that totally convinced Professor
Arthur Ellison (who had a vast experience of physical phenomena
during his lifetime) of the genuine nature of the phenomena at
Scole, was this experience

The four members of the Scole Group and the three SPR
investigators were sitting around the table in the 'Scolehole'
during an experimental session. As usual, our two mediums were
in deep trance, but sat around the table with the rest of us...
We had our normal quota of bright spirit lights before the
spirit team turned their attention to this one special
experiment. A spirit light entered one of the large clear quartz
crystal points we had on the central table, and stayed there -
which made the crystal effectively self-luminous with a greeny-
white spirit illumination.

As we all watched, a solid spirit hand (in full view of us all,
and no more than 30 inches away from any of us) picked up the
self-illuminated crystal, and deposited it in a white, opaque
glass pyrex dish we had put on the central table at the request
of the spirit team in readiness for this sitting.

A spirit scientist spoke through Alan - one of our mediums who
was in deep trance - to ask Arthur Ellison to pick up the
crystal in the bowl, which remained constantly self-luminous.
Arthur, who was always cautious during sittings, did so; but
also placed his chin almost in the Pyrex bowl as a security
measure. He verified that this was a normal quartz crystal
weighing a normal amount. Each of the other two researchers was
then asked to do the same. One by one they did so, confirming
the crystal's reality. Arthur kept his chin close to the bowl.
At all times the crystal remained visible from its self
illumination, and there appeared to be no change to it at any
time.

Moments after the three SPR investigators had confirmed the
crystal's reality, they were again asked to pick the crystal up,
one by one. This they TRIED to do, but this time their hands
just went through the apparently solid and illuminated crystal
as though it was not there! Moments later again, the three
visitors were asked to pick up the crystal for a third time.
Again it had remained fully visible to us all, but this time, it
was once again solid. The demonstration was most impressive.

The spirit team explained that what we had seen when everyone's
hand had passed through the apparently solid crystal was
actually the spiritual essence of that crystal from which they
had removed the solid matter.

They expanded on this and told us that it was somewhat similar
to what happens to us when we die and pass into the spirit
world. We can leave the physical body behind, whilst the
spiritual essence of ourselves remains, allowing us to continue
functioning as individual spirit personalities in a mental way."

-----

Dave Haith



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