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Re: More On The Trindade Island Case

From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 17:34:33 -0000
Archived: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 12:52:33 -0500
Subject: Re: More On The Trindade Island Case


>From: John Rimmer <johnrimmer.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 16:11:37 +0000 (GMT)
>Subject: Re: More On The Trindade Island Case

>>From: A. J. Gevaerd - Revista UFO <aj.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 08:48:03 -0200
>>Subject: More On The Trindade Island Case

>>Dear Listers:

>>As I informed in my previous message,

>http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m04-013.shtml

>>we already have a complete version of the new information about
>>the Trindade Island Case available to the International UFO
>>Community in the website of the Brazilian UFO Magazine.

>I am totally, positively, definitely, absolutely not saying
>"told you so!"

>Okay?

>John Rimmer

Leaving John to say whatever it is he is saying, I recommend the
wisdom of circumspection. Some first thoughts about this new
story:

Ribeiro claims that Barauna told him there really was a "UFO"
and that people on deck did see it, but that it was not what he
photograped - it was only "a weather balloon, or a cloud
formation, something".  This does not begin to address (e.g.)
the emphatic and (IMO) rather credible statements of banker
Amilar that he came on deck in time to see a fast moving light-
coloured oval object flying over the sea fitting the
descriptions also reported by Barauna and Viegas..

Ribeiro says that Barauna told him he had come straight from a
photographic dive in which he used up the film roll in his
camera ("was taking pictures underwater for the Navy and was
climbing to the vessel") so he could only pretend to photograph
whatever was really seen. But Barauna told the world, including
the Navy, that he was actually using his camera on deck
photographing the boat winching at the time. So if he had been
diving earlier, he did not use up his film on that dive. This
story is corroborated by Capt Bacellar, who noted that the UFO
shots he inspected were on the same film roll with pictures
taken by Barauna on deck immediately before.

Ribeiro says there was nothing at all on these original
negatives but empty sky, and rejects the claim that the images
of the object were confirmed on the wet negatives by
eyewitnesses and others because "people will see anything they
want to see".  This strikes me as dismissive hand waving. It
doesn't begin to address the specific testimony of Capt Bacellar
concerning his personal inspection of the images on the still-
wet negative roll.

Ribeiro claims that Barauna told him he faked the object with a
model made of Carioca chips (bus tokens) - a repeat of the crude
Mundo Illustrado photo - because "he knew he could do it with
the chips". I'm afraid this doesn't make sense. The
configuration of the Trindade object absolutely could not be
reproduced with the Carioca chips.

Ribeiro says that Barauna's earlier and inconsistent alleged
claim to Emilia Bittencourt that he used two spoons on a fridge,
not bus tokens against the sky, shouldn't be believed. Why?
Because Barauna was an inveterate joker who liked winding people
up with fake stories.  Yet Ribeiro asks us to take Barauna's at-
least-equally-implausible claim to him seriously. Should we do
so?

Until evidence emerges to lift this new claim from the category
of the recent and already largely-discredited Bittencourt claim,
I suggest cautious scepticism.


Martin Shough



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