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Re: Budd Hopkins

From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:04:30 -0500
Archived: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 06:16:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Budd Hopkins


>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 09:52:16 -0600
>Subject: Re: Budd Hopkins

>>From: John Kubish <dooleys09.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 15:55:27 EST
>>Subject: Budd Hopkins

>>With all the posts about Budd Hopkins, I would like to say the
>>following in his defense. Budd worked with me about 7 years ago.
>>We had lengthy phone discussions on several occasions years
>>before I came to New York to meet with him. I have been
>>hypnotized by the State Police helping in an investigation back
>>in the 60's. Budd used similar methods also. At no time did Budd
>>try to influence, plant ideas or lead the session in any
>>direction. He was always very careful in the questions he asked
>>and everything was recorded and notes taken, including the phone
>>conversations prior to our meeting several years before.
<snip>

Hi Jerry (long time no speak...)

You wrote:

>Budd Hopkins has been a valued friend of mine since the 1980s.
>Because I live far from New York City, others (such as the
>estimable John Velez) are better qualified to assess what goes
>on between Budd and abductees than I am.

John Kubish pretty much nailed it and I would like to second all
of what he had to say about Budd and how conducts his business
with the people who come his way.

>At the risk of being called names,

Oops, too late!  <LOL>

>I will simply state (as a divorced man myself) that ex-spouses'
>claims about the character of their ex-spouses need to be read
>with due caution.

As a fellow divorcee, I concur... 'in spades'. That bit of hard
earned insight is not readily apparent to all however. I have
already been accused of being a "sexist" for daring to say that
our Carol's words need to be read - with both eyes open.

>Finally, reading the often unwarranted, sometimes sickening
>attacks on this good man, I make this plea to whatever basic
>decency remains in ufology. Budd Hopkins is gravely ill, now
>involved with a personal crisis each one of us without exception
>will confront one day. Let us hope that when this happens,
>people who hate us and seek to discredit us are not out there
>frothing at the mouth and howling our name at the moon. Agree or
>disagree with him, he has worked hard. He has given and
>sacrificed much. For now, basic decency (if it still exists in
>this field) requires, at the least, a lowered polemical volume.

Jerry I am deeply sorry to hear of Budd's condition. We had our
differences and our parting of ways was difficult and painful.
But, all that aside, in my ten years of working closely with
him, I learned to love him. We developed a warm friendship and
when I broke away, it was every bit as painful a loss as the
death of a close friend. I mourned or friendship for quite
awhile after the split.

Jerry, if you speak to him please tell him that I love him and
that all my best thoughts and wishes are with him in what is
undoubtedly a very difficult and challenging time for him. Tell
him that I hold no grudges or ill-will towards him at all. After
all these intervening years, all that is left is the memories of
the good times. To this day I miss getting the spontaneous call
from him to meet him at MOMA for an afternoon of art and
camaraderie. I miss him and I know he misses me. Just tell him I
said; it's all good.

Your post (as they all do) reflect your always thoughtful
nature. Well said, amigo. Very well said indeed.


Warmest regards,

John



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