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Re: James Carrion Fires Back

From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 13:58:21 -0500
Archived: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:16:53 -0500
Subject: Re: James Carrion Fires Back

>From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 17:58:02 +0000
>Subject: Re: James Carrion Fires Back

>>From: John Velez <jvelez49.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 16:20:25 -0500
>>Subject: Re: James Carrion Fires Back

>>>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 09:33:59 -0000
>>>Subject: James Carrion Fires Back


>>Quick note re: Budd Hopkins/Carol Rainy/Dave Jacobs.

>>1. Re: Carol Rainey and her indictment of Budd - which is valid
>>BTW - don't attribute any 'high motivations' to this sudden
>>revelation. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!" Consider
>>it in context; it's an ex-wife excoriating (trashing) her ex-
>>husband and his career in a very public manner. Just saying...

>>2. The whole time I worked with Budd, almost ten years, I
>>complained here, in public, about how sloppy his methods were. I
>>was always very vocal about that. That and the need for him and
>>others to properly catalog the raw data coming in so that
>>hopefully somebody could make some sense of it all. He never

>>3. I warned Budd and - everybody else - about Jim Mortellaro. I
>>was the one who introduced Jim to Budd. The very day I
>>introduced them, I warned Budd that there was something
>>seriously amiss with the guy.


>I don't get it, if Carol Rainey is willing to share what she
>knows about Budd Hopkins' careless interaction with abductees,
>how is that behaving like a woman scorned.

>Some people have called me sexist because I call out sexism
>where I see it. Who is in a better position to make the call
>but a member of the so-called second lesser gender. As
>that seems to be what is being implied in the above quote.


I am so disappointed. You obviously took the time to read my
lengthy post and yet the only thing you came away with, the only
thing you felt you had to say about it all is;that you believe
one of my many comments "implies" that I am a sexist???


That's it then, that's your take-away from all that was said?
That my 'sexist' attitude toward women is what motivated my
remarks. That's a real stretch even on a good day, Kathy.

Frankly, I would appreciate it if you would make some small
effort to 'stay on topic.' You know, as opposed to insulting me
by calling me a sexist. (Is this who you really are?)

If you have anything informative or pertinent to contribute
please do. But I'll tell you what; If I want to see monkeys
hurling filth at each other, I'll take a trip to the zoo.

Thank you very much...



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