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Re: 'Standard Abduction Experience'

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 18:04:52 +0000
Archived: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 07:54:59 -0500
Subject: Re: 'Standard Abduction Experience'

>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2011 16:27:07 -0500
>Subject: Re: 'Standard Abduction Experience'

>>From: Kathy Kasten<catraja.nul>
>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 19:39:28 +0000
>>Subject: Re: 'Standard Abduction Experience'

>>>From: Nigel Watson<nigelwatson1.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 15:25:23 +0000
>>>Subject: Re: 'Standard Abduction Experience'

>>>>From: Ray Dickenson<r.dickenson.nul>
>>>>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 13:50:52 -0000
>>>>Subject: 'Standard Abduction Experience'[Was: Hopkins& Jacobs]

>>>>>From: Steven Kaeser<steve.nul>
>>>>>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 12:21:33 -0500
>>>>>Subject: Re: Hopkins& Jacobs


>>Therefore, I feel that if those of you who are truly serious
>>about entering into a discussion of the phenomena is to acquaint
>>yourselves with the literature discussing how the brain works.

>>For a start, PBS is doing a NOVA series called How The Brain
>>Works. The mechanisms are reduced to a simple, easy to
>>understand discussion. This goes, as well, for people claiming
>>to be hypnotherapists.

>I am very much an observer when it comes to abduction
>experiences, so you probably would not appreciate my opinion on
>what it's all about.

>However, I would like to say that mainstream neuropsychology
>(and presumably the NOVA series) takes a materialist's view on
>how the brain works. That is, the mind is seen as a byproduct of
>brain physiology. I think that's a dead end approach for
>understanding the mind. There is psychic activity that is more
>than just a product of prior experience and memory. I recommend
>"Irreducible Mind" by Kelly et al. (2010) to get a flavor of the
>kind of psychological theory that is needed. The book resurrects
>F. W. H. Meyers' theory (1903) on the mind-body relation.
>Psychology is just starting to recover from the behaviorists'
>wrong turn.

>My understanding of Meyers' theory is that the brain is not
>merely a repository of information. Rather, it is a filter
>through which information passes. Mostly, the brain filter
>restricts access to only personal information, but the filter
>properties can change (via drugs, meditation, etc.) and let
>trans-personal stuff through. This material may be accessible to
>multiple people under the right conditions, so it can have the
>flavor of objective reality. The theory seems to offer a viable
>framework for understanding the 'abduction' experience without
>trivializing it.


Well, thanks for your recommendation. I am not going to list all
the material I have been reading on the subject of how the mind

The PBS series was recommended for those out there in the public
who have never thought about thoughts.

I agree that most of the sciences dealing with how the mind
works took a wrong turn. However, the newer material discussing
recent research is truly fascinating and incorporates that
"something other" that was missing from the equation. I have
already previously provide a couple of links to those papers.


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