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Re: Hopkins & Jacobs

From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 18:07:48 -0000
Archived: Wed, 02 Feb 2011 14:02:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Hopkins & Jacobs


>From: Michael M. Hughes <michaelmhughes.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 15:58:57 -0500
>Subject: Re: Hopkins & Jacobs

>Perhaps many are throwing out the hybrid baby with the embryo-
>tank bathwater here....

>I know it is difficult for some to hold two conflicting ideas at
>the same time-that's human nature. But isn't it possible to
>consider that:

>1. There is *something* to the now iconic alien abduction
>accounts-grays, painful examinations, missing time, etc.,
>whether viewed through a literal lens or otherwise (imaginal
>realm intrusion, spiritual, chemical, or what have you).

>2. Hopkins, Jacobs, Mack et al. did some serious work uncovering
>these experiences and bringing them to the attention of
>Ufologists and the public.

>3. Hypnosis, properly used, can help identify some of the
>elements of these abductions.

>While also considering the possibility that:

>4. The iconic abduction scenario has become so widely known that
>it is impossible to avoid the chance of confabulation because of
>cultural ubiquity and contamination. This confabulation could be
>conscious (hoaxing, attention seeking) or unconscious (via poor
>hypnosis, leading questions, mental illness, manipulation by
>unethical investigators).

>5. Hopkins, Jacobs, Mack et al. might have lost their
>objectivity over time (having been convinced of the reality of
>abductions), sold out completely, ignored red flags, gone a bit
>loony themselves, or whatever.

I thought in the absence of either Jacobs or Hopkins commenting
on the hypnosis issue it might be timely to quote both from
their writings.

On his website Jacobs says:

"I try to stay as close to the evidence as I can. However, there
is no possibility that I have avoided error. The majority of
evidence for the alien abduction phenomenon is from human memory
derived from hypnosis administered by amateurs. It is difficult
to imagine a weaker form of evidence. But it is evidence and we
have a great deal of it. Still, readers must be skeptical of
what I say and of what all others say in this tangled arena of
alien abductions, hypnosis, popular culture, and memory.
Abduction researchers are mainly amateurs doing their best to
get to the truth knowing that objective reality may elude them."

And regarding Hopkins at Wikipedia:

Controversy has been a persistent feature of Hopkins' career in
alien abduction and UFO studies. While few seem to doubt
Hopkin's motives or sincerity, critics charge that Hopkins is
out of his element when he uses hypnosis, thereby aiding his
subjects in confabulation: the blending of fact and fantasy.

However, Hopkins insists such criticism is specious. He writes:


"I have often frequently invited interested therapists,
journalists and academics to observe hypnosis sessions.
Theoretical psychologist Nicholas Humphrey, who has held
teaching positions at both Oxford and Cambridge Universities,
and psychiatrist Donald. F. Klein, director of research at the
New York State Psychiatric Institute and professor of psychiatry
at the College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University,
are but two of those who have observed my work firsthand. None
of these visitors... have reported anything that suggested I was
attempting to lead the subjects."


Dave Haith



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