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Re: Hopkins & Jacobs

From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:24:00 -0000
Archived: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 11:44:27 -0500
Subject: Re: Hopkins & Jacobs

Amid all this vitriole and hysteria re Hopkins and Jacobs can we
back-up a little and summarise where we seem to be at...

Following the 'Woods' matter with Jacobs and the Carol Rainey
exposure of Hopkins, suddenly it seems the total alien abduction
scene is out-of-favour.

Most especially the concept of hypnosis of abductees is
particularly taboo because, without any doubt, any
informationobtained that way is suspect because the experiencer
was 'led' and encouraged to relate a fantasy based on the
hypnotists' scenario and desires.

Of course this criticism of hypnosis is nothing new and was
often levelled at Jacobs, Hopkins and Mack who if recall
correctly had their denials and retorts which often included
arguments that the initial stories of the abductees were
recalled in detail long prior to any hypnosis sessions.

A few brave souls such as Gildas B and abductee Kay Wilson have
spoken out refusing to hang, draw and quarter Hopkins etc, maybe
feeling as I do that as in most controversies they would at
least like to hear some of the accused come forward and defend

As Budd is apparently gravely ill, John is deceased and David
appears to be keeping his head down amid rumours of law suits
flying around, it's unlikely this story will get any real
'balance' anytime soon.

Meanwhile I'd like to ask - are we really going down the path of
denying the massive amount of alien abduction data because a
couple of researchers may have got a little carried away with
their hypnosis?

As convenient as the sceptics on this List would like it to be
that Hopkins and company invented the whole 'little greys'
scenario and we can now tuck it away for good alongwith with the
loony contactees, well I'm sorry - it ain't gonna happen!

For instance I only have to watch the faces of the children from
the Zimbabwe school in this documentary:


tell John Mack and make drawings of the beings they encountered
without any suggestion of hypnosis, to satisfy myself that all
there is something other than 'false memories' going on.

Dave Haith

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