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Re: Journal Of Scientific Exploration

From: Kathy Kasten <catraja.nul>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:47:00 +0000
Archived: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 07:10:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Journal Of Scientific Exploration

>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:41:21 -0500
>Subject: Re: Journal Of Scientific Exploration

>>From: Ray Dickenson<r.dickenson.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 15:14:07 -0000
>>Subject: Re: Journal Of Scientific Exploration

>>>From: William Treurniet<wtreurniet.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 20:59:17 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: Journal Of Scientific Exploration


>>>How do List members feel about this proposal? Are there pros and
>>>cons I have not considered?

>>Hi William,

>>If it's a controversial/breakthrough idea then it's a waste of
>>time submitting it to any 'peer-review' process.

>>As the Independent or Guardian explained a few days ago, 'peer
>>reviews' (and the closely linked funding committees) are forced
>>to opt for mediocrity - breakthroughs are forbidden. (The
>>article said that Einstein would've certainly been turned down
>>by 'peer review'.)

>>So some influentiol folk are muttering that modern 'peer review'
>>is killing progress and should be scrapped, some even saying
>>"Just publish yourself and let the audience evaluate it".

>>Maybe that's the way to go.

>Hi Ray,

>Thanks for your comments. I agree with them, but what I was
>proposing was a way around the current peer review system and
>more along the lines of your last statement. We can already
>publish ourselves in the places I mentioned earlier, i.e., the
>JFS, the UFO Digest, and the viXra archive, but there is no way
>to know how it is evaluated by the audience. There is no
>significant feedback to either the author or the readership.

>I've published original stuff on my own website as well as those
>other places, but I usually have no idea whether most people
>think I'm nuts or I've discovered something important. Actually,
>some people are only too ready to comment on the nutty ideas,
>but few go out of their way to encourage the good ones.

>Good ideas need positive and negative feedback to be developed
>further, and bad ideas need it so they can die a timely death.
>The rating system I proposed earlier would offer some feedback,
>and perhaps comments could also be allowed after each article
>similar to YouTube comments. These would need to be moderated,
>of course, to weed out the detritus.

From: Reader of William's original stuff on his website.

Comment: I welcome new ideas, new approaches to long standing
problems. I do not think you are crazy.

Reader's initials: KK

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